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post Sep 2 2004, 06:31 AM
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Hi all,

Forgive me if this question has been asked before - just point me in the right direction and i'll go away. This is a HUGE resource and still trying to get through it.

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If pages with a low PR - say 2 or even 0 - link to my site...will this adversely affect my PR? I know there is a Page Rank formula but just looking at it give me a headache.

When this happens i'm reluctant to ask the sites in question to remove my link as it's bad PR (public relations) - i think anyway. Today's PR0 site may be tomorrow's PR5.

So what would one do in such a case? (IMG:http://www.highrankings.com/forum/style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

Thanks in advance
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post Sep 2 2004, 06:39 AM
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Every page online has a page rank value, even PR0 pages (unless they have been zeroed by a google penalty) A pr zero is a page that has a PR value betweem 0 -1 All pages have a value.

All pages have a maximum amount of their PR value that they can vote with by linking out to other pages. This is complex, but is up to a maximum of around 85%.

So in reply to your question, there is no such thing as a bad inbound link. If it was possible to damage a pages reputaion by linkig to it, then the smappers and sex sites would be building millions of pr0 pages with links only to their competitors, and with no incoming links other than the one needed for google to find and spider them.

I have posted this a few times today, must be the day for link questions (IMG:http://www.highrankings.com/forum/style_emoticons/default/lol.gif)

You link for traffic, the page rank is a bonus. Link for relevance, and you should get traffic, as well as the bonus of some page rank.
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I heard some sites don't like links to other sites with low PR...In my opinion PR adds to the credibility of the site which is why i worry about it...

thanks for your response!
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God I hate that stupid green bar!

Link for relevance, share traffic with other sites of the same ilk, and let the PR take care of itself.
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I dont agree with that ...

if your site is well written and provides useful information.... you won't have to seek out for links... other sites will come to link you (IMG:http://www.highrankings.com/forum/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

Just try making your site good and useful ... (IMG:http://www.highrankings.com/forum/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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Sorry OldWelshGuy, didn't mean to touch a nerve or anything.

Strangerr,
I agree, but sometimes one wants to practice a bit of pro-active marketing as well.

Points taken.
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Sorry OldWelshGuy, didn't mean to touch a nerve or anything.
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No it's not a nerve, it is just that Google did a master stroke when they let loose the toolbar page rank indicator. They are now suffering as a result though, as many people will not link to new sites because they have no page rank catch 22.

I don't have raw nerves, don't have any in fact, too laid back. (IMG:http://www.highrankings.com/forum/style_emoticons/default/kicking.gif)
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QUOTE(strangerrr @ Sep 2 2004, 01:10 PM)
I dont agree with that ...

if your site is well written and provides useful information.... you won't have to seek out for links... other sites will come to link you (IMG:http://www.highrankings.com/forum/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

Just try making your site good and useful ... (IMG:http://www.highrankings.com/forum/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Sorry strangerrr, but I don't agree with your 'I don't agree' post!

The web is a mighty big place and it could take an awful long time for people to find your site naturally, even if it's an excellent site.

I agree that, once the ball is rolling, links will come naturally. However, to reach that self-perpetuating point in a reasonable amount of time, you need to actively promote links to your site.

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just point me in the right direction and i'll go away


Bims, we don't want you to go away... ask all the questions you want. (IMG:http://www.highrankings.com/forum/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)


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If pages with a low PR - say 2 or even 0 - link to my site...will this adversely affect my PR? I know there is a Page Rank formula but just looking at it give me a headache.

When this happens i'm reluctant to ask the sites in question to remove my link as it's bad PR (public relations) - i think anyway. Today's PR0 site may be tomorrow's PR5.

So what would one do in such a case?Ā 


Two issues here I think, your concern about the adverse effect of Page Rank and the public relations assumption. Let's break it down.

Sites linking into yours won't hurt you from a Page Rank standpoint, with "hurt" being the optimum word here. You won't gain much Page Rank (if any) with those examples you used, but they don't "hurt" you, as in penalty. After all, you can't control the actions of other webmasters.

But I do think the other issue, asking for a link to be removed, could hurt you in in anything less than extreme cases.

You're right, low Page Rank sites could be tomarrow's star but linking is more than Page Rank. It's about partnerships, community and providing quality info.

Obviously someone thinks your pages are good because they've linked to them. Those people are promoting you without you even asking. That's a good thing. To ask them to remove this.... well......that's a negative all around and could come back to haunt you down the road.

Unless the site is totally objectionable to you from a business/morality point of view...... I'd leave it be. Like James said above - all links are good links.
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I can see clearly now...

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....the rain is gone. I can see all obstacles in my way.......(IMG:http://www.highrankings.com/forum/style_emoticons/default/band.gif)

Sorry, couldn't resist.
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My opinion about linking is similar to the OldWelshGuy: I just concentrate myself on creating a good quality content site and try to link to as much good content sites as possible. I try to stick to the theme and at the same time I learn a lot of stuff (IMG:http://www.highrankings.com/forum/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

And sure, I constantly look around for useful sites that would eventually link back to me. (IMG:http://www.highrankings.com/forum/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

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I agree BrainR that web is a mighty big place and it could take an awful long time for people to find your site ....... don't expect qucik result ........ if your site is well written and provides useful information for their visitors then many owner/webmasters will be happy to link to your site ....

Patience is virtue ...
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if your site is well written and provides useful information for their visitors then many owner/webmasters will be happy to link to your site ....


IMO, in order to be successful using this strategy, you have to define what is useful content within your niche.

All of the business owners I've worked with through the years are on the Web to make money or promote their "cause"; none of them ever links out to another site unless it in some way benefits their business. Somehow, those outbound links need to show they will impact a purchasing decision.

I believe a webmaster who wants to be successful in his or her niche takes the time to find out what those benefits are and incorporates that information to their website. Defining ā€œusefulā€ information is what makes a website successful and linkable.

Sure, various additional tactics are available to entice webmasters to link, but the bottom line is the info on your site needs to address specific points/issues/information in order for others to link to it.

Useful content = research and doing your homework.
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