 Copyright Protection, Can you direct me? |
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 Jul 21 2004, 12:22 PM
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 HR 6  Group: Active Members Posts: 634 Joined: 19-July 04 User's local time: Feb 9 2010, 08:53 AM From: Chicago, Illinois Member No.: 4,420  |
Hi All,
I just discovered a website that has 'taken' the content from my webpages word for word and has them up as their webpages...changing the links to redirect to their pages. (IMG:http://www.highrankings.com/forum/style_emoticons/default/ranting.gif) One of these pages is my Glossary, very long and a lot of work. I also get a great deal of visitors to this page when people look-up define: in Google. I would like to know what to do (I contacted the owner) - My fear is that Directories and Search Engines could potentially see this as a mirrored site to mine and penalize me. I still find the pages on their server (which means they can still be crawled). What are my options here? It is very obvious they are my words and page content (verbatum). Thanks - P.S. - It really pisses you off when you learn it is another (smalltime) web company!!! - but still, it is in my Industry! |
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Jul 21 2004, 12:29 PM
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 High Rankings Advisor  Group: Admin Posts: 29,196 Joined: 21-July 03 User's local time: Feb 9 2010, 08:53 AM From: Ashland, MA Member No.: 2 |
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Jul 21 2004, 01:34 PM
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 HR 6 Group: Active Members Posts: 588 Joined: 5-August 03 User's local time: Feb 9 2010, 10:53 AM From: Massachusetts Member No.: 307 |
Google is good about enforcing this. I just today got a site taken off Adwords that was infringing on my client's copyright. The paperwork is a chore, but the system does work. I'm expecting to see the site removed from the SERPs any minute...
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Jul 21 2004, 06:06 PM
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High Rankings Advisor Group: Admin Posts: 29,196 Joined: 21-July 03 User's local time: Feb 9 2010, 08:53 AM From: Ashland, MA Member No.: 2 |
Cline, just curious...how was the other ad infringing on your client with Adwords. I know you're a big proponent of being allowed to bid on trademarked phrases that aren't yours, so I'm curious as to what this situation is (or what changed your mind!).
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Jul 21 2004, 09:41 PM
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HR 6 Group: Active Members Posts: 588 Joined: 5-August 03 User's local time: Feb 9 2010, 10:53 AM From: Massachusetts Member No.: 307 |
This is about copyright, not trademarks. It wouldn't bother me if the competitor was running Adwords ads targeted to my client's business name.
The issue is, the client sells copyrighted photos. The competitor has copied those photos and is selling them via Adwords. |
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Jul 21 2004, 10:30 PM
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 HR 6 Group: Active Members Posts: 903 Joined: 18-January 04 User's local time: Feb 9 2010, 10:53 AM From: Dallas, Texas Member No.: 1,965 |
If my memory serves...mcanerin wrote up some articles and posts here in the forum about how you can protect your copyrighted material...reading those just might help you out in the future as you face more copy lifters...
If your websites are any good it will happen again and again Nathan |
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Jul 21 2004, 10:44 PM
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HR 6 Group: Active Members Posts: 634 Joined: 19-July 04 User's local time: Feb 9 2010, 08:53 AM From: Chicago, Illinois Member No.: 4,420 |
Thank You, Thank You Jill and Cline -
The artice is fabulous! ...and just what I needed. I do know how to find them, that is how I found this guy. New York, no less... should know better than to mess with Chicago! (IMG:http://www.highrankings.com/forum/style_emoticons/default/naughty.gif) I am armed with some more dangerous ammunition, Thank you for helping me to put these scoundrels to rest! I love education! (IMG:http://www.highrankings.com/forum/style_emoticons/default/smartass.gif) This forum just earned my number One Forum Award! I really like dealing with ethical professionals! (IMG:http://www.highrankings.com/forum/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) - Scott |
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Jul 26 2004, 09:29 AM
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 HR 6 Group: Active Members Posts: 887 Joined: 1-December 03 User's local time: Feb 9 2010, 07:53 AM From: Near St. Louis, Missouri Member No.: 1,507 |
The subject of copyright infringement seems to be coming up a lot lately. I've heard of three (maybe four) specific instances in the last week or so.
PLUS, late last week I did a search on an article I updated...wanted to notify those who had published it in case they wanted to change to the most recent version. I found three sites using the article outside of my guidelines. The infractions were one each of: - using an excerpt attributed to a different Website - publishing the resource box far, far down at the bottom of the page after some other material plus sticking in a couple of random images to push it down even further - posting the article in a forum without live linking the URL - publishing the article on a site without live linking the URL, plus encouraging visitors to link to the article on their site, going so far as to providing html for the link I sent emails to all. The first two corrected pretty much immediately - the first by correcting the attribution, the second by removing the article. The other two have not yet responded or acted. (IMG:http://www.highrankings.com/forum/style_emoticons/default/mad.gif) No telling what I will find when I search for the rest of the articles. (IMG:http://www.highrankings.com/forum/style_emoticons/default/wacko.gif) |
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Jul 26 2004, 10:27 AM
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 Work is Fun  Group: Moderator Posts: 4,642 Joined: 31-July 03 User's local time: Feb 9 2010, 09:53 AM From: Neath, South Wales, UK Member No.: 110 |
Here is some information for us Brits, as well as some other general links. I have spent a few hours looking at this over the weekend.
http://www.acid.uk.com/ What is ACID? ACID (Anti Copying In Design is a hard-hitting action group committed to fighting copyright theft --------------------- http://www.copyright.com Copyright checker & advice centre --------------------- http://www.copyrightservice.co.uk/ Great site who will help you belt and braces stuff, as well as providing some really good factsheets. ---------------------- There is always name n shame http://www.pirated-sites.com/ --------------------------------- OWG |
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Jul 26 2004, 10:31 AM
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Work is Fun Group: Moderator Posts: 4,642 Joined: 31-July 03 User's local time: Feb 9 2010, 09:53 AM From: Neath, South Wales, UK Member No.: 110 |
Sometimes you can mess up, I recently modified a skin for the rugby forum, while doing it, I meant to add to the designed by xxx.com(link), 'modified & hosted by umbrella Consultancy Ltd'.
I goofed and destroyed his link. The guy mailed me, I said sorry, and put it right within a couple of hours. As it should be done. We can all make mistakes, it is how we deal with mistakes that sets us apart, and sorts the gold from the straw. |
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Jul 26 2004, 11:47 AM
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HR 6 Group: Active Members Posts: 887 Joined: 1-December 03 User's local time: Feb 9 2010, 07:53 AM From: Near St. Louis, Missouri Member No.: 1,507 |
QUOTE(OldWelshGuy @ Jul 26 2004, 11:31 AM) We can all make mistakes, it is how we deal with mistakes that sets us apart, and sorts the gold from the straw. Yes. In my case, I think the guy who incorrectly attributed the article excerpt did so very innocently. Also, in some cases I think it is a difference in implementation philosophies. I think this may be the case with the guy who is not live linking the attributions, plus providing link html to link to the article on his site. He's pretty much doing it across the board with several authors. Then there are the few low life rotten apples (IMG:http://www.highrankings.com/forum/style_emoticons/default/yuk.gif) who want great content but don't want to put in any effort. So they steal it without compensating the author. (IMG:http://www.highrankings.com/forum/style_emoticons/default/ranting.gif) |
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Jul 26 2004, 03:39 PM
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 Is it just me, or is it getting cooler in the evenings...? Group: Members Posts: 1,621 Joined: 26-August 03 User's local time: Feb 9 2010, 02:53 PM From: Chester, UK Member No.: 644 |
Thanks for the UK copyright urls, OWG - very handy!
BrianR |
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Jul 26 2004, 10:45 PM
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HR 6 Group: Active Members Posts: 634 Joined: 19-July 04 User's local time: Feb 9 2010, 08:53 AM From: Chicago, Illinois Member No.: 4,420 |
QUOTE(BobetteKyle @ Jul 26 2004, 10:29 AM) - using an excerpt attributed to a different Website Hey Bobette - I also found the same thing twice! Both times were not so innocent though... They used a very descriptive paragraph of mine (good keywords, etc) and no only didn't say where it came from, but the had it linking to another illinois marketing firm!!! The nerve. Since my emails to those sites, one removed it and the other linked it to my full article and link to my site. It's not really flattering, it's using us. Just had to add. The NY company still has links on his homepage to my content on his server, even though he removed it from his Main navigation. This ones not over. - SS |
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Aug 5 2004, 11:44 AM
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HR 6 Group: Active Members Posts: 887 Joined: 1-December 03 User's local time: Feb 9 2010, 07:53 AM From: Near St. Louis, Missouri Member No.: 1,507 |
Agree totally. It is not flattery, it is plagiarism and copyright violation.
When we offer free articles (or other types of content) for reprint, in lieu of monetary payment almost all of us require the resource box, "About the Author" blurb, or other attribution to be included and expect an active link back to our sites. IMO, not doing that is the same as withholding payment. If site owners do not want to follow rules for free content articles, they should not use them. Done correctly, it is a win-win-win situation: Site owners get good content without having to pay or spend a lot of time writing. Their site visitors get good, informative content. We get better exposure and more links to our sites. |
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Nov 6 2004, 09:00 PM
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HR 1 Group: Members Posts: 6 Joined: 5-November 04 User's local time: Feb 9 2010, 09:53 AM Member No.: 5,590 |
Yesterday, I found one site that had stolen copyrighted material and republished it on their website. (IMG:http://www.highrankings.com/forum/style_emoticons/default/yuk.gif)
Today, I did the same search and found *over 100* search results on Google alone. (IMG:http://www.highrankings.com/forum/style_emoticons/default/yell.gif) (IMG:http://www.highrankings.com/forum/style_emoticons/default/ranting.gif) I believe this is somehow related to the firm with initials TP. My client hired them last summer and subsequently fired them after removing all their bogus code from the site. It seems that these websites are self-generating or are the result of some "home business" money-making scheme (they all have several ads on them). (IMG:http://www.highrankings.com/forum/style_emoticons/default/censored.gif) How can I keep up with them? I've prepared a "cease and desist" letter for the one I found yesterday, but just researching who over 100 sites are registered to will take a considerable amount of time. Is there a quicker way to locate the offenders besides the WhoIs searches I've been doing? If you have any advice, I'd certainly appreciate it. |
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