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Nov 22 2007, 08:34 AM
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HR 1 ![]() Group: Members Posts: 8 Joined: 13-November 07 User's local time: Feb 9 2010, 07:50 PM Member No.: 19,085 |
Hi,
Just wondering what is the best practice when it comes to ampersand character codes in the title tag. By ampersand character codes I mean & for an ampersand (&) and > for greater than (>) etc. Do you 1) leave them as "&" 2) change then the "&" 3) modify the title so that it contains the word "and" Thanks for any responses in advance. |
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Nov 22 2007, 09:15 AM
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![]() HR 2 ![]() ![]() Group: Active Members Posts: 49 Joined: 13-September 06 User's local time: Feb 9 2010, 06:50 PM From: Essex, UK Member No.: 13,799 |
The few times I've used them, I've used & which seems to work.
HTH |
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Nov 22 2007, 09:19 AM
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![]() HR 6 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Active Members Posts: 602 Joined: 13-August 04 User's local time: Feb 9 2010, 06:50 PM From: Suffolk UK Member No.: 4,668 |
As far as I can tell it's fine whatever way you do it, so & vs. & makes no difference and & vs. and should be made based on what you think looks best.
I believe most (all?) of the engines consider and/or/not/etc. to be boolean, so it doesn't even matter from a search query point of view either. |
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Nov 22 2007, 12:00 PM
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![]() HR 2 ![]() ![]() Group: Active Members Posts: 49 Joined: 13-September 06 User's local time: Feb 9 2010, 06:50 PM From: Essex, UK Member No.: 13,799 |
If you're validating your pages, the W3C validator chokes on '&'
Either "&" or "and" is the workaround. HTH |
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Nov 23 2007, 04:26 AM
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HR 1 ![]() Group: Members Posts: 8 Joined: 13-November 07 User's local time: Feb 9 2010, 07:50 PM Member No.: 19,085 |
As far as I can tell it's fine whatever way you do it, so & vs. & makes no difference and & vs. and should be made based on what you think looks best. I believe most (all?) of the engines consider and/or/not/etc. to be boolean, so it doesn't even matter from a search query point of view either. mmmm I think that they must consider "and" different to "&"... as my site has a different ranking in google if you use "x and y" rather than "x & y" but it is a phrase that normally contains an "and" (like salt and pepper / cheese and onion) what should you do in cases like this? stick to 1 phrase or go 50/50? |
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Nov 23 2007, 08:32 AM
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![]() High Rankings Advisor Group: Admin Posts: 29,201 Joined: 21-July 03 User's local time: Feb 9 2010, 01:50 PM From: Ashland, MA Member No.: 2 |
My guess is that most people use the word "and" when searching, not the & since you have to hit the shift key to use it.
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Nov 23 2007, 11:23 AM
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HR 1 ![]() Group: Members Posts: 8 Joined: 13-November 07 User's local time: Feb 9 2010, 07:50 PM Member No.: 19,085 |
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Nov 23 2007, 11:53 AM
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![]() HR 10 Group: Moderator Posts: 7,489 Joined: 24-July 03 User's local time: Feb 9 2010, 01:50 PM From: Somerville, MA Member No.: 22 |
I wonder what percentage of searchers have taken the "The "AND" operator is unnecessary -- we include all search terms by default" message to heart and started searching for [this that] instead of [this and that]. Personally, I drop the conjunction unless I'm searching for an exact phrase, or I'm selecting text that happens to include it and searching on that from a right click.
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Nov 25 2007, 02:02 AM
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HR 2 ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 20 Joined: 30-August 07 User's local time: Feb 9 2010, 10:50 AM Member No.: 18,395 |
I usually base these things on Validations. If the validator doesn't complain its fine (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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Nov 25 2007, 02:12 PM
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![]() Vintage Babe Group: Moderator Posts: 4,142 Joined: 31-July 03 User's local time: Feb 9 2010, 01:50 PM From: Triangle area, NC, USA, Earth (usually) Member No.: 89 |
Uhmmm, maybe I'm missing something. But how does a validator tell you which version of the phrase the real human users are going to be using in search? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dntknw.gif) Cuz, ideally, that would be the one you'd want to optimize for, I would think. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/goodjob.gif)
--Torka (IMG:style_emoticons/default/mf_prop.gif) |
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Nov 27 2007, 11:43 AM
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![]() Paz ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Active Members Posts: 702 Joined: 4-March 04 User's local time: Feb 9 2010, 02:50 PM From: Spain Member No.: 2,763 |
I personally have tested both these versions.
'and' is still used more than '&' by searchers. However with the serps trying to dismiss the and type words the difference in serps in negligable and only really with 'exact' phrase matching'. We choose to keep '&' (entered as &) as it looks tidier in my opinion to the viewer. Also I dont have the 'should i capitalise the first letter of the word' situation. Also, it can depend on the way we speak of course.. I would suggest that we actually say & ('n' 'un' etc) mentally as oppose to 'and' So to most of us 'cheese n onion' not 'cheese and onion' therefore the sound of the word can make a impact.. I think that '&' keeps the connection between the words better. |
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Dec 24 2007, 07:39 PM
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HR 2 ![]() ![]() Group: Active Members Posts: 46 Joined: 7-March 07 User's local time: Feb 9 2010, 02:50 PM Member No.: 16,478 |
If you want an ampersand it is correct to use & and not &. It won't validate because certain characters (like ampersand and angle brackets) should be substituted with html entities.
For more information search Google for html entities... |
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