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wowyourfunny
post Nov 10 2007, 05:03 PM
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If I have links from accounting websites and financial websites pointing to a mortgage website with the correct anchor text, how does Google know how relevant/quality the page pointing to my site is, besides PageRank?

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post Nov 10 2007, 06:43 PM
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I'm not sure what you're getting at with your question wyf. PageRank doesn't attempt to measure Relevancy.

However you are correct in thinking that the anchor text can provide some connection between the two sites. As can other text on the linking page.
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post Nov 10 2007, 06:56 PM
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QUOTE(Randy @ Nov 10 2007, 06:43 PM) *
I'm not sure what you're getting at with your question wyf. PageRank doesn't attempt to measure Relevancy.

However you are correct in thinking that the anchor text can provide some connection between the two sites. As can other text on the linking page.


what im asking is, what if the site and content itself is irrelevant, has great pagerank, and has a link to me with the correct anchor text

how does google know the place that is giving me alink is irrelevant?
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post Nov 10 2007, 07:04 PM
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What makes it irrelevant? Would that target audience be totally turned off to your site? If not, who's to say it's not relevant.
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QUOTE(Jill @ Nov 10 2007, 07:04 PM) *
What makes it irrelevant? Would that target audience be totally turned off to your site? If not, who's to say it's not relevant.


that is an interesting thought. in other words, if my site is about investment banking, but a fishing or baseball site links to me and have great pagerank, google wont penalize me?
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No, they won't penalize you.
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post Nov 10 2007, 10:14 PM
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if my site is about investment banking, but a fishing or baseball site links to me and have great pagerank, google wont penalize me?


Of course they wouldn't penalize you!

I'm always utterly shocked at what people think Google must be like. Do you think they're some sort of crazy monsters just looking for something to penalize?
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post Nov 11 2007, 05:03 AM
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if my site is about investment banking, but a fishing or baseball site links to me and have great pagerank


Do you not think that Investment bankers either play or watch basketball or go fishing?


Relevancy is for humans beings to decide, it's far too complicated for bots.

http://www.highrankings.com/forum/index.ph...st&p=200793

then read the whole thread

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I've had this dilemma in the past and like Jill says 'what makes it irrelevant?'. I used to believe that non relevant links, i.e a link from a website that doesn't directly relate to the theme of my website, wouldn't be as beneficial. However after analyzing the whole process - really who are we to decide what is relevant and what is not? For that same reason, who are Google to do the same.
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For that same reason, who are Google to do the same.

Two things:
1. They are the gatekeepers pof their own decisions, thus granting them every right.
2. Who says they do decide what is relevant?

People are far to binary. On/off, black/white, good/evil, releveant/irrelevant. There is, in most every arena, more than two choices. SO rather than relevant irrelevant, what if we make it a scale? All links are somewhat relevant (they are all votes), but some are more relevant. That, ultimately, is the answer.
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QUOTE(Jill @ Nov 11 2007, 02:14 PM) *
Of course they wouldn't penalize you!
I'm always utterly shocked at what people think Google must be like. Do you think they're some sort of crazy monsters just looking for something to penalize?

Me too. you'd think they have thousands of employees working in penalty sweatshops.
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Well they kinda do with the “grass on link sellers“forms etc (IMG:style_emoticons/default/puke.gif)
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QUOTE(oneofthe3lions @ Nov 14 2007, 09:39 PM) *
Well they kinda do with the “grass on link sellers“forms etc (IMG:style_emoticons/default/puke.gif)



??? Not sure what you mean by that, can you explain?
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QUOTE(wowyourfunny @ Nov 10 2007, 06:07 PM) *
that is an interesting thought. in other words, if my site is about investment banking, but a fishing or baseball site links to me and have great pagerank, google wont penalize me?


Actually!! I believe what everyone is saying about a link being 100% relevant but I will say this, if you have that Investment Banking site and it is Trading Links with the Fishing Site, you are asking for trouble!! Especially if these two sites have PR!! You need to have that fishing site just one way linking you!
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Especially if these two sites have PR!

"Sites" don't have PR. Pages have PR

I am never going to understand the logic behind this idea that backlinks have to be from a "related" or "relevant" site YET the same people will quite happily submit the same site to every damned crappy directory they can find!!

Hello, how can a loosely connected bunch of pages full of links, that has a different topic for every single page of links within the site be a RELEVANT site?

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