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Jan 15 2004, 07:52 PM
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![]() HR 2 ![]() ![]() Group: Active Members Posts: 18 Joined: 15-December 03 User's local time: Jul 31 2010, 07:54 PM Member No.: 1,656 |
I love the search engine, but apparently no one knows it exists because I don't ever recall seeing a hit come from them even though my rankings are fine. Anyone else see AlltheWeb action in their logs?
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Jan 16 2004, 12:15 AM
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![]() HR 4 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Active Members Posts: 141 Joined: 18-August 03 User's local time: Jul 31 2010, 07:54 PM From: Minneapolis, MN Member No.: 563 |
I've seen it too - quite a few times. It's too bad. I like that search engine and they spider the heck out of sites.
You're right. Too bad no one uses it. Can I venture a guess? You have at least twice as many crawls from Alltheweb than you do Google? Paul |
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Jan 16 2004, 06:37 AM
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HR 2 ![]() ![]() Group: Active Members Posts: 35 Joined: 30-October 03 User's local time: Jul 31 2010, 07:54 PM From: Good Old London Town Member No.: 1,210 |
56 visitors from Alltheweb in Dec 03 mind you that is a very very small percentage of the total visitors from search in Dec of 109,659
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Jan 16 2004, 07:35 AM
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![]() High Rankings Advisor Group: Admin Posts: 29,889 Joined: 21-July 03 User's local time: Jul 31 2010, 07:54 PM From: Ashland, MA Member No.: 2 |
Lycos uses their data too. Do you have any traffic from there?
Jill |
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Jan 16 2004, 11:45 AM
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HR 2 ![]() ![]() Group: Active Members Posts: 12 Joined: 2-November 03 User's local time: Jul 31 2010, 03:54 PM Member No.: 1,240 |
Less than 1% of traffic on all my sites comes froms lycos or alltheweb.
I read in the past that alltheweb was popular in europe, maybe internationally focused sites get more traffic from them. |
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Jan 16 2004, 06:45 PM
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![]() Is it just me, or is it getting cooler in the evenings...? ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,621 Joined: 26-August 03 User's local time: Aug 1 2010, 12:54 AM From: Chester, UK Member No.: 644 |
Nope - I get no mileage from ATW on my UK sites either - anyone else in the UK get ATW or Lycos traffic??
BrianR |
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Jan 16 2004, 07:20 PM
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![]() HR 10 Group: Moderator Posts: 7,770 Joined: 24-July 03 User's local time: Jul 31 2010, 07:54 PM From: Somerville, MA Member No.: 22 |
For the second half of last year on one of my sites, 3.5% of my SE referrals were from ATW and .6% were from Lycos.
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Jan 16 2004, 07:28 PM
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![]() HR 6 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Active Members Posts: 786 Joined: 20-August 03 User's local time: Jul 31 2010, 07:54 PM Member No.: 583 |
One question I always have when people ask what kind of traffic people get from a specific search engine is "What terms do you rank well for in that search engine that you aren't getting traffic for?" (IMG:http://www.highrankings.com/forum/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
A lot of the tricks that work for Google or other engines don't work on AllTheWeb - that engine is more about clustering of documents and identifying topographical categories than most. If you've spent the last couple of years building your PR like mad and getting inbound links from any old site that'll give you one, then AllTheWeb isn't going to work very well for you because they can't put you into a "cluster" that matches up with the term. I'm not sure I have any #1 rankings in AllTheWeb (for any competitive terms, that is) at the Cre8asite Directory (to pick that as an example) but I have a handful or three first page rankings that deliver a handful (3-5) visits a day. That may not seem to be a lot in the grand scheme of things, but that's 1000 people a year who likely wouldn't have found me otherwise. And remember, I haven't done any SEO on that site other than to make it crawler friendly. I'd surely get a lot more traffic if we did some SEO on it and even announced its very existence other than to have it in a few of my taglines around the web. AllTheWeb isn't going to make you rich with referals, but I don't know that I'd brush it off, either. G. |
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Jan 17 2004, 04:13 PM
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![]() Is it just me, or is it getting cooler in the evenings...? ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,621 Joined: 26-August 03 User's local time: Aug 1 2010, 12:54 AM From: Chester, UK Member No.: 644 |
QUOTE A lot of the tricks that work for Google or other engines don't work on AllTheWeb - that engine is more about clustering of documents and identifying topographical categories than most. Good point about ATW, Grumpus - but could you be a bit more specific about what you mean by the above, please - a couple of examples, perhaps. Thanks. BrianR |
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Jan 17 2004, 08:21 PM
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![]() HR 6 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Active Members Posts: 786 Joined: 20-August 03 User's local time: Jul 31 2010, 07:54 PM Member No.: 583 |
It's been a while since I read up on this. I'm still not finding much current news on ATW's clustering technology, but here it is in their own words from 2001.
http://www.alltheweb.com/info/news/2001#fasttopicsqa Someone, in another thread, had asked if ATW was mirroring the DMOZ and I had suggested that I thought they were using it as the clustering seed. So, I guess that means it's still accurate the the DMOZ is at least the "seed" for the clustering, though I'd imagine that there are new things involved, as well. A lot of spiffy new things have apepared in ATW over the past year or so. G. |
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Jan 18 2004, 02:09 AM
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I dont ever remember seeing a hit from alltheweb...maybe 1..hit...wow...maybe one day they will become popular....
you never know. |
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Jan 18 2004, 04:25 PM
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![]() Is it just me, or is it getting cooler in the evenings...? ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,621 Joined: 26-August 03 User's local time: Aug 1 2010, 12:54 AM From: Chester, UK Member No.: 644 |
Thanks Grumpus - will check it out -I need to do some more work on Ink & ATW rankings now that Google's dominance is about to end.
Hello and welcome Jonathan R - not seen you in here before - love the signature - soooo true! BrianR |
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