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Feb 28 2006, 01:06 AM
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![]() HR 2 ![]() ![]() Group: Active Members Posts: 34 Joined: 27-February 06 User's local time: Jul 31 2010, 07:54 PM From: Troy, Michigan, USA Member No.: 10,657 |
When I first launched my site back in 2002 I was told that being listed in the Yahoo directory was extremely important from an SEO perspective. I've renewed my directory listing 3 times mainly because I am afraid it will somehow hurt my page rank if I cancel it.
I feel like I am being ripped off though because i don't receive any traffic from the directory. Is it really worth it to pay the $299 annual fee? Can anyone offer advice on the effects of being listing or not being listed in the Yahoo directory. |
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Feb 28 2006, 01:16 AM
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![]() HR 10 Group: Moderator Posts: 7,770 Joined: 24-July 03 User's local time: Jul 31 2010, 07:54 PM From: Somerville, MA Member No.: 22 |
I used to recommend it to, and for clients with a large enough budget that $299 isn't a big deal, I still do. But it's clearly not something you "need" anymore.
I'd like to think that search engines would put a lot of weight on a link that's very specifically targeted and, because of the annual fee, pretty much indicates that a given site isn't some fly-by nighter, but that doesn't seem to be the case, at least not right now. |
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Feb 28 2006, 01:30 AM
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![]() HR 2 ![]() ![]() Group: Active Members Posts: 34 Joined: 27-February 06 User's local time: Jul 31 2010, 07:54 PM From: Troy, Michigan, USA Member No.: 10,657 |
It seems that other search engines such as Google would not favor Yahoo directory listings because they would rather see the $299 come their way in the form of Ad Words campaigns. I also think its interesting that in 2003-2004 Google gave Yahoo directory pages a 9 page rank. Today they give them 4/10.
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Feb 28 2006, 04:45 AM
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![]() HR 4 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Active Members Posts: 114 Joined: 24-September 05 User's local time: Aug 1 2010, 05:24 AM From: New Delhi, India Member No.: 8,802 |
Hi timivers,
The yahoo directory has lost it's relevance because: 1. I dont see many Humans using it to search anything. 2. There is no favourite treatment by SE for a yahoo directory links But I wonder why people are still ready to pay that huge sum of money to Yahoo? I think that is the Brand Value - people are more likly to pay to a big name rather then pay for small name but more working companies..? Regards, Gaurav. |
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Feb 28 2006, 08:16 AM
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![]() Lost in Translation Group: Moderator Posts: 2,202 Joined: 5-August 03 User's local time: Aug 1 2010, 10:54 AM From: Sydney Australia Member No.: 283 |
QUOTE 1. I dont see many Humans using it to search anything. Buit that doesn't mean they don;t end up there (IMG:http://www.highrankings.com/forum/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) QUOTE 2. There is no favourite treatment by SE for a yahoo directory links But they don't dislike them either (IMG:http://www.highrankings.com/forum/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) really, it all comes down to budget. $299 out of $1,000 for one link is a lot. $299 out of a budget of millions isn't a heck of a lot, and a nobrainer IMHO. |
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Feb 28 2006, 01:27 PM
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![]() HR 2 ![]() ![]() Group: Active Members Posts: 34 Joined: 27-February 06 User's local time: Jul 31 2010, 07:54 PM From: Troy, Michigan, USA Member No.: 10,657 |
Thanks for your feedback projectphp.
$299 is $299 regardless of your advertising budget... Only a fool would throw money around without doing their homework... It all comes to ROI. If being listed in the Yahoo directory generates $299 or more worth of business than its a good thing. Its hard to calculate the SEO value of a Yahoo listing. I know one thing for sure, I have received "0" visitors from the Yahoo directory in the past year. |
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Feb 28 2006, 02:49 PM
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![]() High Rankings Advisor Group: Admin Posts: 29,889 Joined: 21-July 03 User's local time: Jul 31 2010, 07:54 PM From: Ashland, MA Member No.: 2 |
Lot of other threads on whether a yahoo listing is worth the money.
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May 20 2006, 06:25 PM
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HR 1 ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2 Joined: 20-May 06 User's local time: Jul 31 2010, 05:54 PM Member No.: 11,834 |
not sure its worth it --- it does add a good PR inbound link, but can buy those for less money elsewhere...
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May 20 2006, 08:04 PM
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![]() Convert Me! Group: Admin Posts: 17,540 Joined: 17-August 03 User's local time: Jul 31 2010, 06:54 PM Member No.: 551 |
Welcome biotechguy ! (IMG:http://www.highrankings.com/forum/style_emoticons/default/hi.gif)
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May 20 2006, 08:28 PM
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![]() HR 4 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Active Members Posts: 218 Joined: 14-March 04 User's local time: Jul 31 2010, 07:54 PM From: Key West, Florida USA Member No.: 2,878 |
I'll leave Jill's links to speak to the value of Yahoo! Directory links specifically, but regardless of the name of the advertising medium ...
$299 / 0 hits = infinite cost per hit. Anything you get zero links in one year seems to be throwing good money after bad. |
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May 21 2006, 05:42 AM
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![]() HR 9 Group: Moderator Posts: 4,574 Joined: 13-August 03 User's local time: Aug 1 2010, 12:54 AM From: Blackpool UK Member No.: 492 |
welcome to HR biotechguy0331 (IMG:http://www.highrankings.com/forum/style_emoticons/default/hi.gif)
QUOTE(biotechguy0331) it does add a good PR inbound link Actually it doesn't, the Yahoo directory uses a click tracking link that redirects with a 302 response.
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May 21 2006, 08:51 PM
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![]() HR 7 Group: Moderator Posts: 2,241 Joined: 31-July 03 User's local time: Jul 31 2010, 04:54 PM From: Calgary, Alberta, Canada Member No.: 170 |
QUOTE Actually it doesn't, the Yahoo directory uses a click tracking link that redirects with a 302 response Actually Chris, That's not completely true. Yahoo is a (IMG:http://www.highrankings.com/forum/style_emoticons/default/censored.gif) cloaker. (IMG:http://www.highrankings.com/forum/style_emoticons/default/blackhat.gif) You are probably thinking about this: http://dir.yahoo.com/Arts/Visual_Arts/Photography/Digital/ If you go to this page, you will see that all the links are redirects, for tracking purposes. BUT: Look at the same page as Google sees it (ie, from cache): http://72.14.203.104/search?sourceid=navcl...hy%2FDigital%2F You will see that Yahoo cloaked the page and fed one with clean links to Google, which then pass on PR. Those guys. Where is a white hat when you need one? Maybe someone should report them... Ian (IMG:http://www.highrankings.com/forum/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) This post has been edited by mcanerin: May 21 2006, 08:58 PM |
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May 21 2006, 08:56 PM
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![]() HR 7 Group: Moderator Posts: 2,241 Joined: 31-July 03 User's local time: Jul 31 2010, 04:54 PM From: Calgary, Alberta, Canada Member No.: 170 |
Having said that, getting a link only for PR is a bad thing.
Hmmm. Yahoo sells links with no traffic, and who's value is only PR, and then cloaks to make sure PR is being passed on... Good thing their motto isn't "don't be evil." At the end of the day, though, I just don't think the link is worth it, and neither would most black hats. You can get very nice directories for an average of $40 a pop. Given a choice between 7-8 directories and one, for the same price, it's a no brainer for most people. I would only buy that link if I'd already got all the other good ones available and had some money left over. And maybe not even then. Ian This post has been edited by mcanerin: May 21 2006, 09:21 PM |
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May 21 2006, 09:12 PM
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![]() High Rankings Advisor Group: Admin Posts: 29,889 Joined: 21-July 03 User's local time: Jul 31 2010, 07:54 PM From: Ashland, MA Member No.: 2 |
QUOTE Hmmm. Yahoo sells links with no traffic, and who's value is only PR, and then cloaks to make sure PR is being passed on... So, according to Matt Cutts, they should be putting nofollow attributes on 'em! |
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May 21 2006, 09:20 PM
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![]() HR 7 Group: Moderator Posts: 2,241 Joined: 31-July 03 User's local time: Jul 31 2010, 04:54 PM From: Calgary, Alberta, Canada Member No.: 170 |
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