How To Get Listed On Yahoo, Easily And Cheap, Proven method, no Yahoo-express Options

[engenius]

Hello everybody. There is a "rather" simple way to have your site listed on Yahoo directory
"almost fore free", quickly and for sure. What you have to do is to subscribe to one on the
many free yahoo expired domains services on the web (make a search on Google, or ask
me if you can't find it and i will happily post it here; then you have to wait a few days...
or you don't have to wait at all if you are lucky: the service will email you in real time
domain names that are available to be bought at any domain name registrar (5/6 dollars)
but that appear to be still listed on yahoo. When you receive one, don't bother if it is in
the wrong category etc.....all you have to do is to buy the domain, to put some content
related to the category on yahoo where it is listed and then to contact yahoo; when you contact
yahoo, tell them that you are the legitimate owner of the domain+site and that you are changing
your business, from the one of the site in question, to your real website; tell them that you
want them to replace that listing for that domain with a new listing for your new business;
accordingly to their policy and to my direct experience (i have done this with 5 sites, all
successfully), they will cancel the old listing for the old domain and will add the new one,
at no charge in a matter of a few days.
If the expired domain name was submitted before the paid inclusion service was launched,
your site will be listed there forever without you being asked for any renewal. If it was
submitted afterwards, you will be asked for paying additional $299, after one year is passed:
you can still refuse at that time, if you want, but at least you will have gained a free listing
for a while. For ma experience, mostly all of the expired domains still listed on yahoo are very old
listings and therefore they have been included in the yahoo dir well before the paid inclusion
program.
Hope this helps.

Engenius

[qwerty]

Welcome, Engenius.

I was under the impression that, for sites that have paid to be added to the directory, Yahoo will only accept contact from the email address that was entered when the submission fee was paid. Has that changed?

[engenius]

Hi Bob!
Personally i just told them that the i didnt remember what was the email address i submitted the old site with, but that i am the owner of the site and it worked with all the sites i did this. Just be sure to give them the chance to contact you at an email address from the old listing that you just acquired in order to show them that you own the site.

Engenius

This post has been edited by chrishirst: Nov 21 2004, 05:34 PM

[Dos]

Doing that, it would be hard to get a domain you like. For example you can't start a funny videos site with a domain like free-hosting-0-dollars.com.

Wouldn't it be hard to find a decent domain name when waiting for expired domains?

[engenius]

Yes, But i am talking about a NEW business: they have changed domain name, title and description, as well as category, Dos.

This post has been edited by qwerty: Nov 21 2004, 04:25 PM

[Randy]

Sounds like far too much work to try and save a measly 300 bucks per year to me. Not to mention more than just a little bit shady. The word "Fraud" comes to mind in fact.

Personally, my time is worth far too much to burn it up playing games like that proposed. And frankly, if one of my sites couldn't support the $300 per year fee it wouldn't be worth keeping anyway. <shrug>

Oh and welcome engenius ! (IMG:http://www.highrankings.com/forum/style_emoticons/default/bye1.gif)

[Connie]

Sounds like far too much work to try and save a measly 300 bucks per year to me.  Not to mention more than just a little bit shady.  The word "Fraud" comes to mind in fact. 

Personally, my time is worth far too much to burn it up playing games like that proposed.  And frankly, if one of my sites couldn't support the $300 per year fee it wouldn't be worth keeping anyway.  <shrug>

Oh and welcome engenius !  (IMG:http://www.highrankings.com/forum/style_emoticons/default/bye1.gif)

Welcome engenius (IMG:http://www.highrankings.com/forum/style_emoticons/default/bye1.gif)

Randy I had some concerns when I first read this post. You have expressed them. shady is is what came to my mind. Illegal would be another if Yahoo found out. Not something I would do for a few hundred dollars per year.

Then to each his own.

engenius you may have cut your own throat by posting in this forum. Since this is such a popular forum I'm pretty sure that someone from Yahoo reads this forum. You have exposed a flaw in their system that I'm sure they will correct.

[Scottie]

You have exposed a flaw in their system that I'm sure they will correct.

LOL- no doubt about that.

:slap:

[engenius]

Sorry guys, but it doesent sound like fraud to me at all. You buy a 300 bucks express inclusion for one year. After 6 months you give up with you business and let your domain name drop. I buy the domain name: i am now the legitimate owner of the domain name. And yahoo HAS GOT the money for the next 6 months. Or not? Then i ask Yahoo to change my listing, domain, category etc: if they do not think that my request meets their editorial requirements, they are free not to change anything, correct? But if i can prove that i am the legitimate owner of the domain listed at Yahoo (regularly paid listing, with still 6 months to go) and they agree to give me 6 months credits for a new site because i do not want to use that domain name anymore and the new site is considered worth to be listed: where is the fraud? So, in your opinion, when you buy an established website on ebay, why do you buy it? Because it has a listing on Yahoo and other search engines = traffic, i guess...If you buy a domain name you buy also its assets, if any. And Yahoo gives you the chance to ask for a listing change. Cannot see any fraud, really, nor any trick. Just a legitimate request, as per yahoo policy, by the legitimate owner of the domain/site: yahoo can accept your request or refuse it. I have said that they have always accepted my requests. Sorry guys, but there is nothing about fraud, here.

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This post has been edited by OldWelshGuy: Nov 22 2004, 12:26 PM

[Randy]

It's not fraud?

Sorry, but let's go with the Merriam-Webster definition. (added emphasis mine):

Main Entry: fraud
Pronunciation: 'frod
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English fraude, from Middle French, from Latin fraud-, fraus
1 a : DECEIT, TRICKERY; specifically : intentional perversion of truth in order to induce another to part with something of value or to surrender a legal right b : an act of deceiving or misrepresenting. : TRICK
2 a : a person who is not what he or she pretends to be : IMPOSTOR; also : one who defrauds : CHEAT b : one that is not what it seems or is represented to be
synonym see DECEPTION, IMPOSTURE 

Now go back and read your very public posts above where you're saying people should represent themselves to Yahoo! as the original owner of the domain and to even go so far as to set up a few pages that reflect the old content, then tell them you're going to change it so that you don't have to pay them their money in a vain attempt to gain a perceived advantage.

I rest my case Your Honour. (IMG:http://www.highrankings.com/forum/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

[Jill]

If you weren't trying to defraud Yahoo, wouldn't you simply tell them that you are the new owner of the domain, and then ask them to simply change the listing to reflect the change in ownership?

[engenius]

You guys never committ to be wrong, uh? You pay yahoo express inclusion for the chance (notice, not for a listing) of having a website listed, not for the chance of the owner of a website to be listed. When i buy the domain name and/or the site i am the legitimate owner of that website that has been listed on Yahoo. Therefore i have the right, as per yahoo policy, to ask for changes about that listing: if yahoo doesent accept my request for a changing, fair enough; if yahoo does accept, i haven't committed any fraud. About merriem-webster definition conntted to the above: i am not an impostor, since i am the legitimate owner of the domain; i do not induce another to surrender a legal right: i am the legitimate owner of the domain, and only me; i am not someone not being what it seems: i am exactly the legitimate owner of the domain. You guys better delete this topic from here, because to host a post about fraudolent activities can be considered as an istigation to commit a fraud....anyway, think however you want: i am not here to convince anybody. I just thought to share my personal experience about changing a listing on Yahoo. I have bought a domain name which was listed on yahoo, i have contacted yahoo saying that i am the legitimate owner of the domain name and related website, i have told them that i would like to replace that domain name with another one, on a different category, with a different title and description, they told me it's ok, they have done it. That's it...if then you want to see a fraud in it, feel free. I personally think that "SEO experts" like you are probably those having made SEO so hard, these days, with all your cloaking, google bombs, fake link exchanges, high-PR links sales etc....but you probably think that those are all legitimate methods of SEO...

[Jill]

I personally think that "SEO experts" like you are probably those having made SEO so hard, these days, with all your cloaking, google bombs, fake link exchanges, high-PR links sales etc....but you probably think that those are all legitimate methods of SEO...

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Yep, that's us!

[Randy]

Now that's rich. Sorry to offend. I'm a beliver in calling a spade a spade, as the old adage goes.

Yeah, we're all cloakers and spammers. umm...I think you have us confused with some other SEO forum engenius.

No, I'm not going for the obvious joke. (IMG:http://www.highrankings.com/forum/style_emoticons/default/lol.gif) It's just too easy.

Anyway... Truth be known, I don't pay Yahoo! for anything. Not for a directory listing, not for express submission, not for anything. I've never needed it, thank you very much. And my sites (notice the plural) rank just fine with Yahoo! and everybody else and make me plenty of money.

On the other hand, I don't try to game Yahoo! or any other search engine either. Maybe they all like me because I don't try to trick them. <shrug>

Like I said above.. if you think your plan is the way to go, then you may be at the wrong forum.

Unless you want to learn the right way to run a business that is. (IMG:http://www.highrankings.com/forum/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

[Jill]

I find a Yahoo listing more of a hindrence than a help these days, as well.