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Nov 1 2004, 07:11 PM
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HR 2 ![]() ![]() Group: Active Members Posts: 14 Joined: 25-October 04 User's local time: Feb 9 2010, 04:13 PM Member No.: 5,485 |
My impression is that Google's changing something again in its site ranking algorythm, and it has something to do with the way it weights certain links.
I've been doing a lot of reverse-engineering lately on sites on many unrelated topics, and I've noticed so far that sites with no links from directories are get better positions in Google. I could be wrong... but one would wonder that with all these directories popping up like mushrooms, Google would weight their links less now. These links don't require much work or time - just pay them and get a link. At the same time, I've noticed that sites with 90% of reciprocal but 'on topic or related' links are doing better then they used to. My current notion now is to have a little bit of everything... What do you think? |
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Nov 1 2004, 07:17 PM
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HR 2 ![]() ![]() Group: Active Members Posts: 14 Joined: 25-October 04 User's local time: Feb 9 2010, 04:13 PM Member No.: 5,485 |
To clarify my previous post... I don't mean DMOZ or Google directories. I guess, Google still cares about those, though I'm not sure about the significance of DMOZ any more. Lately, I've seen many sites ranked #1 on Google that are not in DMOZ and so obviously are not in Google directory.
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Nov 1 2004, 08:07 PM
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![]() Convert Me! Group: Admin Posts: 17,378 Joined: 17-August 03 User's local time: Feb 9 2010, 02:13 PM Member No.: 551 |
It would make sense when viewed from Google's perspective. Especially with all of the new directories out there as you said, and many of them being nothing more than fakey directories. Google's heavy reliance on links has been sorely abused for many years now, so it makes sense that they would fight back.
I can't say that I've noticed it, but then again I don't micro-manage links like that either. For purely personal reasons. (IMG:http://www.highrankings.com/forum/style_emoticons/default/lol.gif) Partly because I'm lazy and partly because I look more at long term stuff than I do at the short term. |
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Nov 2 2004, 04:47 AM
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![]() 33 & Retired ... What to do, What to do? ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Active Members Posts: 653 Joined: 13-October 03 User's local time: Feb 10 2010, 06:13 AM From: Nth Qld - Australia Member No.: 1,052 |
Whether Google have dropped weight from directories or not is irrelevant really, as the link is still counted and still from a unique IP, one way, then you ARE going to benefit regardless. Who cares about what Google wants now anyway? Yahoo is lagging about 1% from Google search queries currently. Yahoo and MSN are counting them, and combined make up nearly double the queries that Google is supplying.
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Nov 2 2004, 09:03 AM
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![]() HR 10 Group: Moderator Posts: 7,489 Joined: 24-July 03 User's local time: Feb 9 2010, 03:13 PM From: Somerville, MA Member No.: 22 |
JP, can you tell us how you determined whether or not sites had links from directories? Was this a link: check on Google, did you go to the directories and search for listings for particular sites, or did you use some other method?
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Nov 4 2004, 03:35 PM
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![]() HR 2 ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 17 Joined: 11-August 04 User's local time: Feb 9 2010, 04:13 PM Member No.: 4,650 |
Yea - if you are saying that G doesnt place any importance on directory links simply because they do not show up (or some do not) when you use the link: command, well, I'd say that is wrong. I still thing G treats a link as a link. Is there change upon the horizon? Possibly, but I do not think that has happened yet...
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Nov 4 2004, 04:20 PM
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HR 3 ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Active Members Posts: 55 Joined: 14-January 04 User's local time: Feb 9 2010, 04:13 PM From: So. Glens Falls, NY Member No.: 1,931 |
QUOTE(jp6212 @ Nov 1 2004, 08:11 PM) My impression is that Google's changing something again in its site ranking algorythm, and it has something to do with the way it weights certain links. I've been doing a lot of reverse-engineering lately on sites on many unrelated topics, and I've noticed so far that sites with no links from directories are get better positions in Google. I could be wrong... but one would wonder that with all these directories popping up like mushrooms, Google would weight their links less now. These links don't require much work or time - just pay them and get a link. At the same time, I've noticed that sites with 90% of reciprocal but 'on topic or related' links are doing better then they used to. My current notion now is to have a little bit of everything... What do you think? I get an exceedingly good volume of direct links to the topics from Google. Many directories have very few pages cached by Google and poor topic title keyword concentration. This is the primary reason they are not receiving good Google traffic. It seems that many directories have not changed format style since the late 80’s and that format will not produce reasonable traffic today. |
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Nov 4 2004, 04:29 PM
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HR 5 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Active Members Posts: 347 Joined: 6-December 03 User's local time: Feb 9 2010, 04:13 PM Member No.: 1,559 |
I agree with Stoner.
The key factor is a link on a page of relevancy to the key phrases. So lots of related / text / keywords etc and correct tags all help Whilst a page of "mixed up links" doesn't A lot of directories are missing this Clare |
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Nov 4 2004, 08:20 PM
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![]() 33 & Retired ... What to do, What to do? ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Active Members Posts: 653 Joined: 13-October 03 User's local time: Feb 10 2010, 06:13 AM From: Nth Qld - Australia Member No.: 1,052 |
QUOTE(stoner3221 @ Nov 5 2004, 07:20 AM) I get an exceedingly good volume of direct links to the topics from Google. Many directories have very few pages cached by Google and poor topic title keyword concentration. This is the primary reason they are not receiving good Google traffic. It seems that many directories have not changed format style since the late 80’s and that format will not produce reasonable traffic today. Yep, well that about hits it on the head ... Good post Bruce. |
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