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[qwerty]

'starter for ten'

It's from quiz shows.

[dodger]

What about outgoing links - do they have any effect and if so what ?

[creditwrench]

And even the much vaunted Google can't crawl intent.

] Well, I'm afraid that I am going to have to disagree with you on that statement.

I think I can prove you wrong. Tell you what you need to do to back up your statement.

Go to Google and type in the name of a company that is bound to have a lot of people hating it for whatever reason. Take Providian Bank, Capitol one, MBNA and maybe a couple of othere.

Then check out where Providiansucks.com lands in the rankings compared to other sites that praise them.

And then do the same for a couple of the others and I think you will find that the sites that speak favorably will almost always rank higher than the complainers.

[Scottie]

Welcome Dodger!

Quick PR tutorial:

Every page has a "voting weight". That vote is passed on to the pages it links to.

A higher PR number means the vote carries more weight.

The vote is equally divided between all the pages that page links to, i.e.- there are 10 links on the page, so each page gets 10% of the vote. If there are 100 links on the page, each page gets 1% of the vote. Google has stated they do not index more than 100 links per page.

Internal and external links are treated the same- if 5 of your links are internal navigation pages and 5 are to outside pages, each page still gets 10% of the vote.

Pages that are designated as an authority or a hub for a topic (they have a lot of related links coming in and/or going out) typically enjoy higher rankings. If your linking strategy is tightly themed, it can really help. This is a good reason not to do wholesale link-swapping with anyone and everyone.

Hope that helps answer your question.

[Scottie]

Welcome creditwrench!

How do you think that happens?

[qwerty]

Creditwrench, the "much vaunted Google" line wasn't mine.

[creditwrench]

Welcome creditwrench!

How do you think that happens?

Hi All.

I wish I knew how that happens, but it sure can't be by accident.

I haven't checked out a sufficient number of examples to be 100% certain yet and it just might be a while before I have concrete proof of what I say.

I've only begun to suspect that in the last few days. But I've got some pretty convincing
examples that it might be true.

Fact is, I've stumbled onto xome pretty amazing search engine knowledge in the last few months and most of it by sheer luck or accident or whatever.

I plan on letting you in on it and I do hope I don't get too many of you old experts mad at me in the process.

It isn't that I think you are all wet but rather that there is a lot of technology out there that some may not be aware of. So if what I will be talking about is old hat to all of you bear with me until I find that out.

Then on the other hand you may surprise me and agree with me. Whaever.

It isn't that I see anyone as being wrong however because most if not all of the advice I see here just fits right in with what I plan on bringing to the table.

So we will see what we will see, eh?

[creditwrench]

Creditwrench, the "much vaunted Google" line wasn't mine.

OK! So I quoted the quoter?

Or did I quote the quoter's quoter or what?

Not a lot of difference if one is willing to forgive the bum rap. (LOL)

[qwerty]

Not a problem. I was just trying to keep the record straight.

[Leann_Pass]

Hi CreditWrench,

PageRank

This is some really thorough info on pagerank.

I thought it might be of interest.

[creditwrench]

Ok. Good. I really don't care for problems. I already have more of them on my plate than I can say Grace over. (LOL)

No then, let me see what else I can stir up.

You folks are extolling the virtues of links and search engine optimization and talking about different kinds of links and how much difference they might make.

Well, I can't disagree with any of that except to say that there are some aspects of links that I haven't really been paying all that much attention to since I never really have seen that it makes much difference.

Links are highly important but over the years I've pretty well tried to keep a lot of links going and have been fairly successful. But since I've only got about 18 to 20 thousand of them going in all directions and getting more every day I tend to not let that be my major concern.

I think that I can pretty well prove that page content is just as important as links. Let either one slip and your popularity and rankings will suffer. So I tend to worry about having fresh new content every day if at all possible.

That gets me top page rankings all the time on just about any keyword I want and a lot of them I don't want and gets me there in less than 24 hours most of the time. And even gets me top ranking over websites that had held their high rankings for a long, long time.

I used to waste a lot of time submitting to dearch engines but not any more. I hardly ever submit to a search engine. Especially not the majors. I don't need to submit to them at all. I've got their spiders crawling my sites every day.

If I do submit to an engine it is because it is a new one that is just getting started so don't have me yet.

One page I just put up May 03rd this year has over 23,000 hits and I never submitted it to any of the majors. Not ever.

I do use RSS feeds and I do have a Google API key and feed but I can't see that any of that has ever brought me any hits.

They might in enough time but I'm sure not going to hold my breath waiting on it.

[Leann_Pass]

The Anatomy of a Search Engine

This is another good source of info. Written by the co-founders of Google

[dodger]

Welcome Dodger!

Quick PR tutorial:

Every page has a "voting weight".  That vote is passed on to the pages it links to.

So this means my links to other sites are watered down in value the more I have?
But do these links to external sites from my site effect my ranking/placement ?

If I link to sites that have low ranking does it drag me down?
If I link to sites of high PR does it help me?

I thought only links TO my site would have any effect on my ranking.

[Jill]

Sounds like you're certainly on the right track, CreditWrench. Welcome!

Jill

[Jill]

But do these links to external sites from my site effect my ranking/placement ?

Nope.

Unless of course you're linking to anything and everything.

If you only link to stuff that you personally believe is great and will benefit your site visitors, it can NEVER hurt your site.

On the other hand, if you're just trading links and linking to anything because they'll link to you, you'll probably end up with some problems.

Jill