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The "sandbox" And Title Tag


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#1 Diniz

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Posted 04 October 2004 - 06:50 AM

If you have a site that appears to be suffering from the "sandbox" effect try changing the title tag of your homepage. It may be that the balance of the keywords in your site are not correctly represented in the title tag on your homepage and that by improving your title tag you could dramtically change your rankings or that a change in your title tag could indicate to google that you've been working hard and that it is time to lift the aforementioned "penalty".

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Posted 04 October 2004 - 06:55 AM

Hi Deniz, where did tha come from if you don't mind me asking. Was it your own research? it would be interesting, as it would fit in with what has been said that it is a combination of elements stacking up that trip the effect, rather than any one factor like being new.

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Posted 04 October 2004 - 07:07 AM

Ah OWG from personal experience. I changed my title and shot up. This was back in may however before i heard of sandboxing. We were however talking about certain penalties after the florida and umm debated named updates. The supposition is based on experience and my general feeling. I would like people who feel they are suffering from some kind of penaltyy to try changing the title and to report back after 3 days.

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Posted 04 October 2004 - 07:40 AM

I would say that sandboxing and just not being correctly optimized are two different things, don't you think?

If changing your title tag shoots you up, then it seems to me you're not sandboxed according to what people think sandboxing means, you simply weren't optimized correctly for the current algo.

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Posted 05 October 2004 - 04:38 AM

Yeah and I was born yesterday Jill.

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Posted 05 October 2004 - 04:57 AM

Diniz, are you saying that by removing your keywords from the title you shot up into the Serps? That would make sense in my scheme of things. I have posted before that pages that gain thousands of backlinks rapidly tend to be funny pages, or news pages. Neither of these are likely to be optimised. I have said that it would make sense to identify optimised pages, and if you have SEO'd pages AND loads of links, then apply the brakes.

This would account IMO for googlebombs still working. because the pages being bombed are not optimised for the phrases being bombed, and so are allowed to run.

Have to say your English is good for a one day old biggrin.gif

#7 Jill

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Posted 05 October 2004 - 07:31 AM

QUOTE(Diniz @ Oct 5 2004, 05:38 AM)
Yeah and I was born yesterday Jill.

Sorry, I don't understand why you just said this. Care to explain?




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