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Posted 26 September 2003 - 07:55 PM
<added> In fact, it's on the page twice.
Posted 26 September 2003 - 09:47 PM
Froogle also spidered and listed my site without me submitting a feed, but the descriptions and prices were not relavant in some cases. For instance, they list the contact us and copyright pages with a price of $50. Of course, those pages don't have prices on them, so it looks stupid. On some of my product pages they use the "add to cart" button instead of the product image, or the SSL certificate logo instead of the product image. For this reason, I decided to send them a feed so the information would at least be correct.
I would suggest submitting them a feed if at all possible. Here's a link on how to get started...
Froogle Information for Merchants
Posted 26 September 2003 - 10:51 PM
I put up a shopping cart site as a test early on with Froogle and intentionally used cart software I knew would block nornal spiders by requiring SessionIDS and Cookies. I tried to keep everything else concerning the site launch as close as possible to what I would do with a "normal" site so that I could get decently relevant results. Then I set up to submit a feed monthly to Froogle so that I could measure if there was any connection at all between Froogle and Google...ie would a Froogle-only site get it's pages into Google's index via the feed.
There is no crossover whatsoever at this time. Google and Froogle results appear to be 100% independent of each other.
Our Froogle feed shows all 1,500+ "normal" and dynamically produced pages indexed. Even the long URL strings with as many as 4 modifiers are displayed and linked just fine from Froogle.
On the other hand Google has exactly the 7 pages I expected it to have indexed. Tthese 7 pages require neither a SessionID nor Cookie. But no other pages since Google cannot spider those deeper product pages.
Traffic on the site is very minimal, I assume because not many normal surfers even know it's there. We're talking maybe 1/15th or 1/20th of what the same site would get if it were able to be spidered and included in the Google, etc SERPs.
Summation: Submitting a feed to Froogle will get you past the dreaded SessionID/Cookie issues many shopping carts have. Which is promising. But you won't get much traffic from a Froogle feed as compared to what you would get from a decent Google listing. So you should not depend solely upon your Froogle feed for traffic, because you will starve if you try to do that.
Lately I've been debating about whether I should leave this site sitting in test mode or not. It's been in test mode since Froogle Feeds debuted, and I kind of like it being there because I'll be able to tell quit easily if something changes and the Froogle data begins to be used in the Google SERPs. I'm putting off that decision for the moment, however I'm leaning towards fixing the site so that Google and the rest like it better. As much as I like testing, I also detest having a site sitting there doing basically nothing month after month.
Posted 11 October 2003 - 10:57 PM
Personally, I think that people who submit feeds should take presidence over the spidered results. On many of my searches, it was obvious that over half the results were spider errors -- wrong images, wrong prices, or totally wrong product.
The datafeeds are good - correct images, descriptions, and prices.
Additionally, it seems impossible to optimize for searching. The top item often looks no different than the 242nd item. Plus with TONS of items on the site and the lousy search feature, I think only a few sites are actually getting good traffic from Froogle. I think we have gotten 1 hit from Froogle in 2 weeks.
Is there something I'm missing. Being on the first page looks like it could drive trafic but I have no idea how to get there.
Posted 11 October 2003 - 11:08 PM
I have my doubts about Froogle as well... it will be interesting to see what they do with it.
Posted 12 October 2003 - 02:41 PM
I guess all those things are probably why Froogle is still in beta testing after all this time!
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