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Pages Updated Regularly Get Indexed More Often?
Posted 21 September 2004 - 07:05 AM
I've heard pages updated more often get indexed more often. I have a couple of questions.
1. Is that true?
2. How do the search engines tell?
If it is true I guess its good to make minor (will minor changes do) changes quite often?
THanks for advice!
Posted 21 September 2004 - 07:36 AM
How do they know? If they spider your site over and over and nothing has changed I found it slows down the frequency. If something is new it comes back more often.
Just a side note, again based on my personal experience only, it seems once google finds you if you are continually adding content to your site it spiders you much more often then yahoo.
Posted 21 September 2004 - 07:44 AM
Any idea how much new content keeps the spiders interested? My site is as 'full' as it can be really, ie. all products and all descriptions etc.
I keep rewriting decriptions for instance, would that have a postive effect. Or would adding small amounts of text, such as reviews be more worthwhile?
Posted 21 September 2004 - 07:49 AM
My guess is that the spiders compare the file date (and other variables) with what they have to see if anything new has happened. If not, skip indexing the page.
My site runs using server side includes and I've noticed, that if I only updated the navigation (one of the includes) and not the main page the spiders take longer to reindex then if I changed the main file. My work around is if I've updated something like the navigation (has the copyright date) then I make at least a minor change on a couple of my pages so the bots take notice.
Back in the very old days of SEO, you could simply republish your pages with out changing any content to trick the bots that you were updating regularly. Now the bots are more sophisticated and my guess is they look at the file date, the file size and other factors to determine if it is truly an update.
Posted 21 September 2004 - 08:02 AM
If your goal is to get spidered more often, could you feature different products on your index page each week?
Keep in mind I’m asking if your goal is to get spidered more often. I am not suggesting that being spidered more often will improver your search engine ranking, too different things.
It does beg the question, why do you feel you need to be spidered more often? If your content frequently changes then I could see why you would want this. A example I can think of would be a convention center with multiple venues that would want frequent spidering so new events are added. If your information does not change, say you sell gravel and yesterday you sold gravel and tomorrow you will be selling gravel, why would you need to be re-spidered?
Posted 21 September 2004 - 08:20 AM
Why does it matter if your pages get spidered more often if they're not getting changed?
No need to change them just for the spiders, as spidering doesn't do anything but put your new info into the engine's database. If you don't have new info, you don't need it in, your old info will still be there and still up to date.
Posted 21 September 2004 - 09:37 AM
I see what you are saying...
The reason I want the spider to come back (and this may well be the wrong reason) is that if I do site:mysite.com in Google I have pretty much all my pages there, however only the url is there for the majority.
I also suspect (again possibly wrongly) that this may be something to do with duplicate content? All my pages include the same header, images and alt tags etc. Also they have the "same" dynamic url eg productinfo.php?p=productname etc.
However each of my pages does have good (for humans) textual content, approx 200 words of info, and links to pdf product specs etc.
May be I just need to wait? Site has been live for about 2 months.
Posted 21 September 2004 - 09:49 AM
wait 3 to 5 months then if there is still partial indexing start looking for reasons.
but if the pages have the same titles/headers etc you are certainly not making good use of SEO. Images & alt attributes are less of a concern.
Posted 21 September 2004 - 09:55 AM
Just to confirm, all pages have different page titles, meta etc Only thing that is the same is the header which has the same images/alt tags on each page.
Not a lot I can do about that is there? Obviously I want my logo to be the same on each page? I could dynamically change the alt text to be more product specific I expect rather than just "company name"
Posted 21 September 2004 - 10:15 AM
Posted 21 September 2004 - 11:21 AM
Oops, sorry, I didn't notice your post when I posted mine. But absolutely, we agree!
I never could understand the desire of people to want to be spidered more often even though they had nothing that needed spidering!
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