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Is Static Html Mirror Pages A No-no?
Posted 27 August 2004 - 07:34 PM
I know we're not banned, but I wonder how much this helps or hurts us with the big G. I did notice today that the only listing we have for our main keyword is attached to that HTML version of our store.
Thanks for any input you can give.
Posted 27 August 2004 - 08:02 PM
I'm a bit confused by your question, mainly the copyright part of it.
The static and dynamic versions are both on the same domain? Or are we talking a totally separate domain name that has been set up. And is the content on both versions exactly the same?
The short answer to your question is that you won't be Penalized for the duplicate pages. However the search engines will generally choose to show either one or the other, but not both.
There are some dynamic shopping carts out there that will create static pages for you. In those cases, since the entire dynamic site now has a static version, I simply exclude the dynamic page(s) that load it all via robots.txt. But I'm not sure if that's what you're dealing with or not.
Posted 27 August 2004 - 08:09 PM
My shopping cart has long url's and supposidly these don't spider so well. However I've heard that many search engines now can spider these. The Static site is off the main page of our site, cyclespot.com/thestore. This is generated by a module inside our store that converts .mvc code to HTML. The Previous unnamed "SEO GURU" placed the link to this html version as the word "Copyright" at the bottom of our main page. It's a text link like any other, I just wasn't sure if the HTML pages were helping or hurting us.
I checked to see where we are for our top Keyword and we came up 243 and it was the html site that showed up.
So if I remove the HTML version will the big G now spider the ecommerce store instead?
Thanks in advance.
Posted 27 August 2004 - 08:48 PM
Make your plain html version highly visible to the world, and sport it proudly. Then simply exclude the dynamic part of the site through your robots. txt file.
Or see if your dynamic pages really are spiderable, and just get rid of the plain version.
Posted 30 August 2004 - 10:46 PM
Posted 03 September 2004 - 12:33 AM
I looked into doing what you suggested today, and found a major problem with it. We use the Cascading menus in our store, and it's DHTML. When I spoke with someone today at Copernicus , they informed me that even using spider friendly URLs the spiders would not see through this menu with the DHTML as is.
So, now my options are to do away with the cascading menu, and then install search engine friendly links to the storefront. However, at what point do the spiders say "this is too much of the same content over and over" and can I be penalized for having the static HTML pages, and the dynamic pages with the same content?
I really hate to loose the category tree, and I'm not sure what I'm going to put in its place (we have way too many categories to just let them run down the page).
Thanks for your input on this.
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Posted 05 September 2004 - 12:58 AM
We sometimes use 2 versions of a page for google, Html catalog and the dynamic version, Especially for shopping cart sites, We dont see any problem with google,
Posted 05 September 2004 - 12:58 AM
I have been running a Miva Merchant store for over 4 years. I also used SEK (which created the static HTML pages). Switching from using the static HTML duplicate pages to the Copernicus module (using Apache Mod_Rewrite) has made a tremendous difference for me. My Miva category pages now have url's that look like this (www.juliesjewels.com/ctgy-Bridal-Jewelry-Collection.htm) and my product pages have URL's like this (www.juliesjewels.com/prod-20847.htm).
These new URL's have all been indexed by Google and my traffic is steadily increasing each day. I also used the Copernicus module for meta tags (automates title & description tags in dynamic pages) and the Copernicus module for creating a store map.
I was thrilled to delete those old static mirror pages (which did not work well anyway). I understand your concern with the category tree (and your numerous categories) but I would find a work-around to that problem and implement the search friendly links.
If you have any questions with Miva Merchant I will be glad to try to help you. I can honestly say re-writing those Miva URL's has been the best thing I've done in a really long time.
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