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[dano]

Hello all.....Great site as it has really helped me tremendously. Now I must submit 2 questions since I can't find them here or anywhere

Question 1:
I have a page that just will not get indexed by google. After reading many posts and scouring the web I think it is because the directory level is too deep.

http://www.synergeez...ships/index.php (2 levels deep)

It will index everything that is one level deep or the page right before the one above http://www.synergeez...llery/index.php But once I go to the second level (ships) nothing is indexed.

I am thinking that I need to move the ships directory up 1 level so that when google crawls to http://www.domain.co...llery/index.php and sees the "ships" link the URL will now go to http://www.domain.com/ships/index.php instead of http://www.domain.co...ships/index.php

What do you think?

Question 2:
I have made numerous changes (thanks to this forum) to the pages within the second level so that google will hopefully crawl to them (have to get question 1 answered first though or they will never get crawled no matter how well they are optimized ) e.g.

1. made SE friendly URLs by getting rid of '?' after the page being called.
2. put '/' between all parameters that are being passed to dynamically created pages.
3. and getting rid of the '.' for the extension of the '.' php page that is being called by using <ForceType "fileName"> in my .htaccess file --> ships.php is now ships

So my question is how long is too long as far as how many parameters I can place in the URL which are separated by '/'s after the page that is being called?

My example is this (assuming 1 level is the deepest one should go from the last question):

http://www.domain.co...ew-Jersey/BB-62

so ships is the php page being called and New-Jersey and BB-62 are 2 parameters being passed to the php page ships. Sometimes I pass 3 parameters but never more than that. Does google think that this link is 3 levels deep?

Thank you so much for all who replies

Dano

Edited by dano, 16 September 2003 - 03:43 PM.

[SearchRank]

Why don't you try placing a link directly to http://www.synergeez...ships/index.php from the home page and see if that doesn't get it crawled? Maybe I missed it but I couldn't find a link directly to that page from the home page. It could be that Google indexed the home page and then crawled all the links from the home page but no deeper.

I have seen pages two levels deep get crawled before so it may be that Google has just not found the page yet.

[dano]

You didn't miss it. I have thought about adding 'Naval Art Gallery' and Aviation Art Gallery' at the bottom of all the links on all pages.

So it would read on 1st row:
home | about us | military art gallery | products | etc etc

then right under that row centered up:
naval art gallery | aviation art gallery

I am a little reluctant as I am not sure I want this look on all my pages. If I am reluctant in doing this, is a site map a better option then? Then google would be able to crawl to my homepage and see sitemap which points to all the galleries.

[SearchRank]

I would just link to the page from your body copy on the home page. One link is fine - no need to over kill. You already link to your Military Gallery from the body copy.

It could look something like this:

"Welcome to Synergeez. We specialize in digital, military art to provide a unique touch of aviation art or naval art for your home, or an extravagant gift for someone special. "

[qwerty]

A site map wouldn't hurt, dano. Just add that to your links at the bottom of the home page, and I expect Googlebot will find your pages. As far as I know, the issue isn't about the number of levels deep in the domain structure a page exists; it's more about how many clicks it takes to get there.

Can I ask a question? Why is my mouse going crazy when it moves over your page? Is it the script that disables right clicking?

[SearchRank]

It's one of those "disable right button" scripts. Just makes me have to open my Netscape browser in which I have Java disabled.

[dano]

you are funny searchrank I put that JS there just to keep some, probably a small percent, of the lame people out there from stealing images off my site since it is an imaging site. I know it doesn't stop all, just the ones that don't know any better. But I do stop you from disabling your JS on the important pages to try and steal my images (I am sure there are ways around that too)

That is a great idea about putting the links where you suggested! I will do that. I will also put those directories up a level to keep it closer to the top as well as I have read that helps ( I think ).

Any ideas about Question #2?

Thanks for helping!

Edited by dano, 16 September 2003 - 05:31 PM.

[SearchRank]

On # 2 - "/" would indicate a directory or level but that should not really be an issue. The issue is "can a crawler find the page"? As qwerty suggested also, a site map accessible from the home page would be beneficial.

Good luck

[dano]

thanks alot for the help

[Scottie]

Hey Dano-

Welcome to the forum!

My .02- kill the right-click disabler, that only makes people mad. Anyone can still view your source and grab those pictures. A better way to do it is to make the image a background image using CSS- and place a clear gif over the image. Then when people right click, they only get the clear gif.

If they really want to, they can track down your stylesheet, pull that up and get the image URL from there, but it is a lot more work. Much harder than just disabling right click.

On your URL- Google has no problem with deep subdirectories. As others have told you, the issue is more about how deep Google has to go into your site to find a link to that page. A sitemap would really help.

[dano]

thanks for the .02......I will do that soon

[K.S. Katz]

Better yet, add a "watermark" to the graphics which makes them identifiable as yours and makes it very difficult to remove without causing issues with the image.

[dano]

I just wanted to update you all on things that I have done based on your suggestions.

I did remove the right button JS thingy and implemented the transparent.gif which is overlaid on top of the image that I want to protect (loosely stated here). I already had watermarking on the larger images just not the thumbnails or medium size images as they were too small anyway.

I created a sitemap to my site last night and WOW goggle is deeeeeeep crawlin my site now!

Thanks for the great suggestions!

Dano