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Sempo -- Again
Posted 20 August 2004 - 01:48 PM
I'm not sure I understand your violating lawyer/client confidentiality though, Greg. Unless you're SEMPO's lawyer?
If SEMPO has had a review done by a lawyer and it's been completed as mentioned in that "newsletter" we got, why is this review not made available to the members?
What was the review even about? Just appointing board members?
Again, I have to ask...why all the secrets? Is this not a public organization?
Thanks for your help with all this Greg. We know you and the SEMPO board members are extremely busy these days, but the more that stuff that is out in the open, the less people will be bugging you for more info!
Posted 20 August 2004 - 02:14 PM
Can you give us the scoop on that if it's not privledged info?
Posted 20 August 2004 - 02:18 PM
Posted 20 August 2004 - 02:23 PM
If it's not in electronic form, can't it be posted as a pdf?
Why in heaven's name would it take another few weeks to get it posted somewhere. Something is just not right here.
Posted 20 August 2004 - 02:32 PM
I started off as volunteer -- and wrote all of the early press releases as a volunteer. But in late June, my business partner told me that we couldn't afford to donate quite so many hours to sempo anymore. So, we made a formal proposal to the SEMPO board and they hired us -- at $4,000 a month starting in late July and running until December. I believe this line item is in the budget posted on the SEMPO site for members to review. This covers both my hourly rate, which is $100 an hour, and also includes expenses for distributing news releases over wire services.
Posted 20 August 2004 - 02:34 PM
Posted 20 August 2004 - 02:34 PM
On the legal side, I understand the need to not talk about certain things when under counsel. However, communication to this industry is critical, especially when representing it.
Posted 20 August 2004 - 02:43 PM
Great to be here. Nice Smilies. I requested the bylaws from Sempo via email on 8/3/04 and have received nothing.
Posted 20 August 2004 - 02:53 PM
C'mon folks, give 'em up!
So legally, how long do the non-profits have to provide them upon request?
I don't really want to keep picking on SEMPO and the board, but I just don't get it any more. We've waited patiently for some statement from the Chairperson about the issues and what's being done to fix them.
I know that there are issues, and that they're being worked on, but nobody will come out and say this. Why not?
Again, I implore someone, anyone from SEMPO to simply tell us what the issues are and what they're doing to fix them. That's all they gotta do. Why is that so hard?
We know SEMPO messed up big time. From the stuff people have uncovered on other forums, etc., that's been made obvious. Why haven't they just come out and said, "hey we messed up big time. Our bylaws are bad and/or wrong, and don't address the right things, and now we are working diligently to fix them. They will be fixed and posted as according to attorney whomever, by such and such a date."
A simple statement is all most of us would need to feel better about all this.
Posted 20 August 2004 - 03:09 PM
Of course, I would love to run all this idea by a lawyer first, but the lawyer who has been donating his time pro bono to sempo up to now has recommended that we hire a lawyer -- a different one, by the way -- to handle the increased demand for things like legal reviews. And that hasn't happened just yet.
And when that new lawyer does get hired, I'm sure he or she will want to review these requests -- and the current bylaws -- before making a recommendation.
On a parallel front, the current bylaws do not cover the election process and are therefore being revised. Upon completion of that update, the new bylaws will be reviewed -- and I personally will recommend that they be posted in the member section of the web site. So, we are working towards meeting this desire for more information, but it will probably be September before we can do all this.
I hope this will be fast enough for most SEMPO members. Again, I apologize to any individual member who wants more information sooner.
Posted 20 August 2004 - 03:16 PM
Maybe we need to email all the board members directly to see if they have a copy? Hopefully they haven't all shredded it yet!?
Posted 20 August 2004 - 03:16 PM
We are genuinely grateful for you sharing all this stuff with us. Thank you.
But surely the point is that comms to members about what SEMPO is / isn't currently doing should not be isolated to a few forum posts in response to questions by Jill and others.
Why is the membership STILL not being properly informed!? As a non-SEMPO member, I now know more about this than the majority of the members know!
Posted 20 August 2004 - 03:27 PM
I have to suspect (as I think most people are thinking by now) that there are no bylaws. We aren't seeing anything because it hasn't been on anyone's to-do list and instead of admitting there aren't any, we are being told other stories.
If there are some, it wouldn't take much to produce them. I'm sure the writers of them must have the completed notes at the minimum. Can we admit there are no bylaws or as an alternative, get a look at the current working copy?
I'm sure Barbara or Noel must have whatever has been used up until now.
<I understand that you are in a bad position here. It may not your place to say whether or not they actually exist. But it would go a LOOOONG way toward credibility if someone would simply admit that or cough up the info. >
Posted 20 August 2004 - 03:29 PM
If and when I get their By-Laws from the IRS, i'll get them to a copy service and mail them out or fax them to whoever would like them. They are public record:
501(a) Governs all Sections of 501© this includes 501©(6) and encompasses the disclosure rules. See section 6104. (my c's are turning into copyrights).
And noone is paying me 4K for all my admin, legal work. I am volunteering as a member to help oversee the activities of a trade group as the IRS expects the members to do.
Feel free to email me at firstname.lastname@example.org with your requests. I should be getting:
1) Complete application for Tax Exemption (should include By-Laws)
2) Form 1024
3) Articles of Incorporation
4) Certificate of Incorporation
5) Annual Report dated 3/1/04
at 4:59 p.m. Perhaps we should have a cocktail hour conference call at some point. Have a complete agenda.
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