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Google Update - July
Posted 17 July 2004 - 03:49 PM
Posted 17 July 2004 - 03:52 PM
Posted 17 July 2004 - 04:09 PM
They want you to waste your day trying to figure out something that 1) has no meaning, and 2) isn't figurable.
Have fun with that.
Posted 17 July 2004 - 04:17 PM
When I read about Google doing things to mess with our heads, I'm not sure if I should believe that it's actually a deliberate effort on their part to keep the world guessing, or if it's just incidental to whatever's really going on.
Posted 17 July 2004 - 04:26 PM
You should read the threads over at WMW every time Google makes the slightest change.
My guess is, the guys and gals at Google get a keg or two of beer, some of those nice sandwiches that their DeadHead chef makes, fire up the WMW Google dance thread, and the hit the switch and wait for the fun to begin.
Oh to be a fly on the wall....
Posted 17 July 2004 - 05:31 PM
In the past they would sometimes show *some* low pagerank pages in the backlink, but they were an exception more than the rule.
this update they are showing a ton more of em.
also this update they are not showing many of the high pagerank backlinks that were showing recently.
Posted 17 July 2004 - 07:30 PM
I have yet to see a connection between reported backlinks and ranking. Actual backlinks and ranking, sure, but not the silliness that comes up on a link: check. But I look anyway
Posted 17 July 2004 - 08:16 PM
PageRank is,... not important?
Reported backlinks are,..... not important?
Depending on what you want to know, they are (not) important.
Reported backlinks can tell something about what Google is trying. In the end they do have a reason for this link: command. They didn't put it up there for us SEO people so they believe it benefits the searchers, though probably not too many use it.
If the link: command should benefit the searchers then it makes sense not to show all backlinks but only those that are actually usable for a searcher. Google wants to give the most relevant results and is probably going to try to show pages that are most related to the page that the request is made for.
Keeping this in mind, you can be certain that PR and link: are unrelated, though this does not mean there is no relation between the 2.
In order to get high rankings you don't need to know anything about PR, or Reported Backlinks. But it does help you know where you are in your process of getting those high rankings.
Though be careful not to get too focussed on a single factor. In the end you have to get it all right.
Posted 17 July 2004 - 08:45 PM
Now they appear to have moved away from that judgment. Are they making a different judgment? I don't know. I do know that this page is now reported as a backlink for my business site. While I kind of like the page, the only thing that makes it at all relevant is the anchor text of the link pointing to me.
Posted 17 July 2004 - 10:25 PM
Umm...Peter...this statement makes no sense at all. (Maybe a language thing here.)
If something is unrelated, then there's no relationship.
Posted 17 July 2004 - 11:12 PM
Posted 18 July 2004 - 12:45 AM
Disagree with you peanutbutter. I believe they were always there, we just didn't pay as much attention to them back "in the old days". We were too busy stuffing tags and hunting around for the submission page on HotBot, Lycos and Northern Light.
Tell you what I have noticed though.....I'm seeing directory listings popping up (JoeAnt, GoGuides and topicals) where they weren't before on the sites I monitor.
Tons of them. And I agree with you on the higher PageRank pages dropping off. Now that is interesting!
Posted 18 July 2004 - 12:51 AM
Posted 18 July 2004 - 01:30 AM
No they were not there, I just dont want to start a debate again what the link: command was showing since it is not going to help much, but the fact PR4 cut off was true, I pointed this out in numourous threads here and in many forums, if you would have seen one then it simply means a dynamic link, And why it is showing low Toolbar PR I explained clearly,
If you would not have seen it then it doesnt mean it never existed, Now the link: command is broke so no use discussing it, But when it comes ok again ill show you more details,
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