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Posted 12 July 2004 - 10:18 AM
And it's more the whole frame thing that I find sleazy than the link.
I told my sis to put some java script code on her site that will undo the frame.
Posted 12 July 2004 - 10:18 AM
I'll let About team know your thoughts regarding the frame - but can say with much confidence the frame will more than likely remain.
Posted 12 July 2004 - 10:21 AM
There is a way when linking from them to remove the frames. I try to do this for those that are guest authors on the marketing website, but it is true some Editors do not know how to do this. She might contact the Editor and ask if she could provide her with a direct link that didn't frame her website. If she doesn't the great thing is your sister got free PR (public relations not Google PR)
I'm so glad you didn't think the Editor was Sleazy It would have propelled us into damage control
Posted 12 July 2004 - 10:30 AM
You and me both. I post to be helpful and I also learn myself.
I suppose you could liken it to my postings here, I don't post here in order to increase rankings. I post here when I see that it is something I can be of assistance with.
It is a pretty well stated fact that signature links in this forum are not recognized by Google and counted as backlinks. That has not stopped me from posting (over 1800 times at the time of this post).
However, my goals here are different than article writing and distribution. Here my goal is to share, to learn and develop relationships with others in the industry. With articles, it is first to provide a resource to my own customers as well as those who visit my site and secondly to promote my company. That is why I allow anyone to freely republish them, so long as the article is not modified and the author bios with hyperlink to site is included. That gives a double benefit of exposure as well as PR benefit.
That being said, I appreciate any outside exposure and therefore do like the fact that articles appear on About under your resources. It is a win - win situation as it didn't cost me anything to have them there and you have more resources for that section. It would be better however IMO if the articles received either a direct link from About or if they were simply republished in their entirety with the author bios and link to site like many other resource sites do such as Search Engine Guide, SearchDay, etc. I'm not complaining about the way you currently have it or otherwise I would have done so already. But seeing that the subject of PR benefit has come up in this post, I thought I'd mention it.
Oh and BTW, I do not show any backlinks from About.com even though that is a PR7 page and I wouldn't expect to with the way they are framing them in like that.
Posted 12 July 2004 - 10:34 AM
I'd be happy to publish a guest article for you but I do require 90 day exclusivity. If you are interested PM me we can talk. As I said previously I do provide a direct link on guest articles.
Posted 12 July 2004 - 10:40 AM
I did used to get some decent traffic to my site, so I was happy that they had my site as a resource, I just didn't like how they went about it. It just didn't seem right.
Then they went through their stinkin' pop-up phase and I refused to visit any site there. It wasn't until I started using my current browser (which blocks pop ups) that I could start visiting there again if I found something of interest.
I think they may have finally gotten rid of those pop ups, which if so, was a good move because there is some good content there, and I'm quite sure I wasn't the only one who refused to visit there because of those pop ups!
Posted 12 July 2004 - 12:43 PM
Yes they did get rid of the popups - when you visit you may get 1 or 2, but it's not nearly like it use to be.
Posted 16 July 2004 - 06:53 PM
Brown nose smiley! Ha! Ha!
If you talk to the About girl like that,
I don't think I wanna know how you talk to the Google Guy.
Posted 16 July 2004 - 07:14 PM
It never occurred to me to check to see if it was a direct link- the traffic was more valuable to me than any nebulous link pop value. It led to the article being reprinted on about a dozen sites... all with links back to my original page.
So, the About link may not have counted, but it was far more worthwhile than lots of other links I get.
I actually sent Laura a "thank you" note for listing it and before you know it she turns up here... Do things for the right reasons and good things happen...
You can complain because a free resource doesn't add to your link popularity, or you can appreciate the traffic it sends.
Posted 16 July 2004 - 09:02 PM
Depending on the topic and the editor, About is a good place to troll for new link partners. I've used them in the past for "artsey" type sites as they seem to have a lot of sub topics in this area.
Good point about traffic Scottie.
Posted 18 July 2004 - 11:14 AM
Anyone who wants to make the Web a better place should be thrilled to direct-link to quality material. It's sad that a discussion of linking revolves more around the PageRank implications than just plain ol' linking to good stuff.
Posted 18 July 2004 - 11:24 AM
If we leave out the PR/ranking implications, then the links from about.com are fine. It might be a nuisance to have that frame above everything, but they are linking to the content. They just aren't using the content's standard URL.
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