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Posted 06 September 2003 - 08:01 PM
The only things they changed were their business name and address and they added a few apostrophes into some words that I made up for the site. They even had the same unfinished pages and broken links that my site had!!!
I've had pages and even sections of my sites ripped off, but never the entire thing! What are people thinking??
"Doh, I think I'll start a business and put up a website, eh? This here site looks good, I'll just use it. Copy, paste, done! "
I just copied the site down and fired off an e-mail to the site owner... we'll see what happens.
I added in the "eh" because it's a Canadian site...
Posted 06 September 2003 - 09:55 PM
Then about a month later they came out with another general article about our product and others like it, and again they stole a lot of our text. This time, however, they took the passages we had written to indicate how our product differed from that of our competition, and used them in a way that indicated that these were all common attributes of all the various products!
This was years ago, before I knew how to deal with such things, so we wrote them a couple of times and made numerous threats, but nothing ever came of it.
Posted 07 September 2003 - 05:29 AM
I really understand your anger, but remember: "A person going in your footsteps, will never get ahead of you!"
Even though this is just a saying, I am confident, that the people doing what you just described, are so much in lack of talent, that they will never become a real threat in any way.
That doesn't make it less anoying - I know that!
Have a lovely sunday, anyway!
Posted 07 September 2003 - 09:03 AM
I've had that happen, and it's illegal for them to take your work and post it as their own. Hopefully, the site owners will be gracious, and either give you full credit, or change their site.
If not, you also have recourses, including contacting their ISP. I have only had to go to that extreme once in my life, but it works.
They say that imitation is the greatest form of flattery...but I am sorry this was done to you.
Posted 07 September 2003 - 10:35 AM
Giving you full credit, is not an option, imo. When you steal someone's whole web site you take it down asap. That's the only option.
And Scottie, you can do the Google thing that Debra did, and get them to remove the site from Google due to copyright violations. That might spur the jerks into removing it, if they don't on their own.
Posted 07 September 2003 - 10:55 AM
How nice! Thank you- I am.
Have a lovely sunday, anyway!
I'm certainly not worried about competing with these people; it's a local service company and South Carolina and Ontario are pretty far apart.
What irks me is the time and effort I put into the site, only to have someone else copy it down in about 30 seconds and have it posted as if it were theirs! Flat out stealing, IMO.
I do a lot of work promoting this particular industry and I have been more than happy to share my content with others as long as they note the copyright and a link back. I would not have approved a wholesale copy of the entire site, but I would have allowed several pages.
I came up with several programs that are unique in the industry and I'm more than happy for others to use the ideas and even the words as long as they give credit. But to just copy everything as if it's no big deal... wrong.
They haven't responded yet. I'm giving them until Monday.
Posted 09 September 2003 - 06:37 AM
That cross-country thing is a hassle. Surely the Canadian government must have some legal entity that controls copyright violations. Do any of the Canadians on the forum know who Scottie can contact?
Until then, i'd try the host. Even though it's a local host in another country, they might still take the site down once they see that it's bogus.
Posted 09 September 2003 - 07:29 AM
The United States and Canada are both signatories of the Berne Convention for the Protection of Literary and Artistic works, so there shouldn't be difficulties in initiating a law suit if necessary.
Some nice material on copyright infringement from the chillingeffects.org site: http://www.chillinge.../piracy/faq.cgi
Contacting the owner of the site in question is often a good start. If necessary, that can be done n the form of a cease and desisit letter drafted by an attorney - but it doesn't necessarily have to begin in the hands of a lawyer.
Posted 09 September 2003 - 08:46 AM
Posted 09 September 2003 - 08:48 AM
If only all stolen content stories worked out so well...
Posted 11 September 2003 - 01:30 PM
There's a website somewhere out there that is devoted to exposing copycats, but I can't remember where it is anymore.
Posted 11 September 2003 - 02:07 PM
Posted 11 September 2003 - 02:19 PM
Posted 11 September 2003 - 03:22 PM
Can I ask what kind of magical words you used to get that site owner to get with the program?
We're going to have to figure something out. We know of several sites that copy some of our marketing language already here and there (which seems like a bear to try to control... sigh) but this one site I just found today had a whopping 4 paragraphs of original content and upwards of 20 full pages of stuff that was lifted from our site verbatim. :o
I guess our Legal group will get to have at it, but I'm just curious if you have tips about how to approach situations like this. Was it a Cease-and-Desist-ish letter?
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