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Should I Be Upset With My Seo Firm Over This?
Posted 10 June 2004 - 04:38 PM
I terminated the services of the person doing seo work for a number of reasons. One of them is not getting a lot of support from a few of my associates so I thought I would pose this question to the group.
This person did seo work for me for five months. While I was paying him minimal fees ($150/mo) I certainly expected him to put me into the directories. When I found out after five months I was not submitted to DMOZ, I was upset. To me, that should have been one of the first things he did since it's relatively easy.
Was I justified in being upset? He did some good things with content, tags, cosmetics and others but I could not understand why I was not submitted four or five months ago.
Posted 10 June 2004 - 04:45 PM
Did you sign a contract with the SEO?
Posted 10 June 2004 - 04:53 PM
If the contract specified that he would submit to DMOZ, then obviously he should have. If it didn't...well...
I assume you had a contract?
Posted 10 June 2004 - 04:54 PM
Posted 10 June 2004 - 05:03 PM
He did some programming mods for me (no problems) and pitched me on seo stuff. At the time, I knew it was important but did not understand HOW important is was to my business.
I just thought submitting to the directories was pretty easy and should have been one of the first things he did. When I learned he had never even tried to get me listed, I got upset.
Posted 10 June 2004 - 05:06 PM
Posted 10 June 2004 - 05:36 PM
Posted 10 June 2004 - 05:38 PM
Personally, since getting in DMOZ these days is such a long-shot anyway, not submitting there is really no major loss. It probably would never have gotten in anyhow.
I've been trying to get in for two months with no luck. I didn't know it was so difficult.
I'll look for a thread on this to learn more.
Posted 10 June 2004 - 05:48 PM
Oh, what a fatalistic attitude! It doesn't take long to find the right category and submit your site, and so far every site I've submitted has been accepted. I've been turned down for category changes and deep links, but other than that I've got a perfect record with the ODP.
It probably would never have gotten in anyhow.
I'm not claiming that if you do everything right you're guaranteed to get in, but I don't see a reason to skip it.
Posted 10 June 2004 - 06:16 PM
I agree, it's easy enough to submit to and should be done, but I also don't think it's any big deal. Links from dmoz are highly over-rated (when you can get one).
Posted 10 June 2004 - 06:32 PM
Posted 10 June 2004 - 06:39 PM
So many times, the DMOZ submissions received are aweful, and break every rule. I have approved about 30 listings, and all of them started out pretty accurate, requiring minimal input from yours truly.
As for being submitted to DMOZ being an SEO deal breaker, well given that resubmission sends you to the bottom of the list, and who knows if the site is already in the queue, I would say no.
In terms of the specific SEO budget quoted, deciding in what direction to take changes is tough. Lets call that $150 a month 5 hours. Where is that 5 hours best spent? Answering that question is tricky and down to personal preference, but better "content, tags, cosmetics and others" sounds about right to me. 25 hours spent on those issues will probably be time better spent than chasing directory listings for a half done site.
That said, doing SEO yourself is probably not a bad idea, so long as you have significant time to invest in education and application. $150 a month wont by you much, but spending that on some educational material will probably lead to more tangible benefits long term.
Posted 10 June 2004 - 06:42 PM
I go there, submit and forget. easy as that, no point in worrying
The only way to do it, and since it is so easy why not. What does it take, ten minutes while drinking an expresso?
Posted 10 June 2004 - 06:43 PM
Posted 10 June 2004 - 06:45 PM
Wow! Is that a fact? (you should know
well given that resubmission sends you to the bottom of the list, and who knows if the site is already in the queue, I would say no.
So, I guess the fact that I've submitted my site three times in the past sixty days is not a good thing....
Do you suggest I wait six months to resubmit?
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