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Web Forwarding Vs 301 Redirect
Posted 04 September 2003 - 03:26 AM
Say I register books.com. It's up and running for 3 months with a proper enhanced virtual server. And then I register books.co.uk but without a server - ie just the name. If I use my web host's forwarding facility to make books.co.uk point to books.com, is that the same as a 301 redirect?
Or does books.co.uk have to have its own web server which then redirects to books.com?
I am already high up on the .coms in the search engines on my site so dont want to jeopardise this with some stupid forwarding mistake.
Posted 04 September 2003 - 06:14 AM
I would like to know the answer to this one if anyone knows.
I am uk based and have two dot coms that receive no traffic from Google.co.uk, so I have purchased the dot co.uk versions but have no definate idea how to re-direct them without loosinging PR and traffic.
Posted 04 September 2003 - 08:55 AM
Meaning it depends totally on how the host is performing the forwarding. There are several ways to do it.
1.) At the server (Apache) level, which is basically what 301 redirects are.
2.) There is also DNS forwarding where the actual DNS directives for Site B point over to Site A. This is done at the server level also, but is different from a 301 redirect.
Both of those are just fine by the SE's from my experience.
On the other hand, if the host is doing something like:
3.) Frame Forwarding
You will likely dinged for duplicate content. FYI, you can always tell if it's Frame Forwarding if the URL in the addy bar is Site B but you're viewing the content of Site A.
Generally speaking, if it's done at the server level (with a 301 or DNS) you should be okay. Personally, I stay far, far away from anything not done at the server level if I want something to be spidered.
Posted 04 September 2003 - 10:45 AM
It's not the same as a permanent 301 redirect which actually tells the engine which domain you prefer to use. But you do often have to have a real account for the extra domain name, in order to be able to enable this type of redirect.
Hope this helps!
Posted 04 September 2003 - 11:09 AM
Posted 04 September 2003 - 12:20 PM
This is in common use for people who use their free webspace on their host, but want a domain name instead of the wierd long one they have from geocities or their ISP.
The original site will looks something like: www.yourisp.com/yourname/
In this case there is no IP and no virtual header in use, so the ISP will offer the ability to put your domain name on a frame page that is 1 pixel high (basically invisible) and then loads your page underneath it.
You want what is often called DNS forwarding or parking, not what most ISP's call web forwarding. Unfortunately, there are lots of other ISP's who call their parking system "web forwarding" so you have to do some digging to find out what they are doing.
Posted 04 September 2003 - 12:46 PM
I think the best thing to do would be to speak to my hosting company. They do offer a redirect service but they don't make it clear how it works !
Posted 05 September 2003 - 04:29 AM
Will check with my hosting company.
Posted 05 September 2003 - 04:44 AM
Does this mean when I register the .co.uk that I have to have a virtual server with it to redirect? Or is no server needed? But if there is no virtual server and the user searches for .co.uk's on say yahoo.co.uk, will the .co.uk be picked up?
Posted 05 September 2003 - 06:02 AM
Is 'DNS Forwarding' and 'Parking' one and the same thing??
Posted 05 September 2003 - 08:18 AM
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Posted 05 September 2003 - 09:55 AM
That clarifies things.
I have set up www.turbocashuk.com with its server.
I registered www.turbocashuk.co.uk without its own server.
All I need to do then is do a 301 redirect on my host's control panel to www.turbocashuk.com. ie it wont be 'parked' on the .com domain but redirected there. Simple as that!
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