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[amabaie]

On many forums there has been discussions of Google sandboxing new sites, typicaly for around 14 weeks after ranking well for three or four weeks.

To see where the site would ranky withoutn the sandboxing , one is supposed to do the search with seven minus giberish lines, such as:

my search -dgdfsg -dgdfsg -dgdfsg -dgdfsg -dgdfsg -dgdfsg -dgdfsg

I have a client whose established site had a couple pages toally rewritten. URLs, grahics, etc. remain the same, but the text was rewritten and optimized. The site dropped off the face of the SERPS for its top terms, but when I apply the giberish filter, it ranks #1 and #3 for its top two terms.

Has anyone else seen this with an established site? Or is this giberish filter a sign of something other than just sandboxing?

Thanks.

[domokun]

i have a question about sandboxing of new sites, if thats okay?

does this sandboxing effect occur on, for example, a search for the sites name? i.e. is it all phrases?

[madams]

Amabaie

Can you explain "sandboxing" as I can find the answer searching.

Also I did a search for my site with the giberish and improved 7 places.

What is the giberish filter supost to do?

regards

[Jill]

Could you please post a link to the original articles/posts on this theory?

Jill

[jbelle]

This is a new term to me so I was searching and turned up this post at Crea8site forums.

I haven't launched a new domain recently which is what this "phenomenon" seems to affect. Or do others believe it's also new sites?? Going back to read more...

[Steve Sardell]

Can you explain "sandboxing" as I can find the answer searching

Sandboxing is the current term used naming the hypothesis that when a new site is launched G will wait a period before allowing the site to be included in the SERPs and its PR tallied. Basically it is the waiting period. Some are estimating the time lag to be 4-5 months. It is supposition and recently has been a keen topic on some of the fora.

[amabaie]

Here are two threads on this. I know I've seen it also mentioned in these forums, but not as threads on their own.

http://www.webprowor...p=101237#101237

http://www.cre8asite...opic.php?t=8690

[seodesign]

amabaie,

I have 2 sites that have in G for about a year. When applying the giberish filter they jump from #5 to #1 and #9 to #5.

So as far as it being a the theory about a trial period for new sites - it doesn't appear to work for my sites.

Is it a sign of something to come? I hope so!

[Steve Sardell]

The *sandbox* and filter are two differnt things. The rumor is the filter will show the results of the new G results. These are the results from their recent tweaking. It is just a rumor, but it sure is an intersting one, and there is no doubt the added gibberish returns different results.

[SmellieNellie]

The rumor is the filter will show the results of the new G results.

Wow - I will be one happy lady if it is true!!!!!!

[Steve Sardell]

You and me both.

I do not normally follow the ranking postions closely, but today I have. In G there appears to be a major upswing in the number of reported sites. As an example previous results for one key phrase were showing 1.2m are now showing 1.7m, 2.3m now 3.4m. There would not be this kind of discrepancy w/i the data centers. Just something else to ponder while having lunch.

[amabaie]

I've just run a number of my clients' search terms through the filter, and I notice that it helps some move up and some move down.

Although my sample size is not large and the results are a bit inconsistent, the terms that move up are terms that are weighted toward on-page content. The terms that move down are terms weighted more toward off-page factors.

[nedguy]

hmm..

I saw the WebProNews sandboxing article on Fri but ignored it because my site pre-dated Florida (is that the one we called Gladys?).

I've just been running the exclusions and the effect is startling. It drags a keyword from 30 in google serps to 19, and another that is not even on the map (200+) into 22nd. Closer to the top the effect is not so clear.

I'm not sure how helpful it is knowing that though!

NG

[ephricon]

I'm a fan of the search results with the filter as well. Anyone have much of a good idea if indeed it does represent a new algorithm change or anything of use? Any word on what the relationship is between the filtered results and the regular SERPs?

[Steve Sardell]

Re The filter - I do not think anyone outside of G knows what it indicates or why it is producing such deviation. Examining some standings, in a niche travel sector it appears some of the universal directories that relied on linking text rather than onpage factors have dropped, the same can be said of some real estate sites. I do not have suitable base size to give across the board generalities, but if the filter theory holds then it does look as if there is going to be a major adjustment.