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[Not Google]

Just a quick thought, I have been seeing some strange results on google recently(actually its serps have been quite irrelevant to my search queries for deep content...anyway) and was wondering if in their bid to prevent people from spamming and using seo techniques to rank higher then they should, they might start penalising pages(or ignore key phrases) that seem to have had some optimising. eg if they find a phrase in the title and that exact phrase twice in the body , that would be penalised.....

[projectphp]

Possible. Anything is possible. The worst thing for any spam filter, though, is "fasle positives", that is, penalising the wrong site. This is what you are referring to with your first few sentences.

Don't worry about SEO dying. SEO is about making sites SE friendly and rank well. That will be required for a long time yet. weven if spam filters change, that wont kill SEO. As long as there are SE, there will be SEM and SEOs

[mattski]

I think you hit the nail on the head there projectphp - totally agree.

[shahid]

Can i also ask something projectphp? Can google panelize any site for immediately ranking well in allinanchor? I mean during the last update this site is nowhere and then it suddenly comes up at top for allinanchor? Are they using some filer for link text also?

[Jill]

NotGoogle, I think Google does do that to a certain extent, and I think that's why their results aren't as good as they used to be these days. They are still preferring .edu sites, etc. over commercial ones, and stuff like that.

And welcome Mattski!

Jill

[Drew-z]

Can google panelize any site for immediately ranking well in allinanchor?

I don't think it is quite that simple, but I do think there is something to this.

I have a few sites that rank #1 with all in anchor at Google and then have the #1 position at Yahoo for that same term.

That is a good indication for on-page and off-page SEO factors being amoung the best for that particular keyword (i.e., Custom Pool Tables).

This website however is totally off the map in the Google results for that term.

[shahid]

The website i am talking about is no one for three keywords in allinanchor but 94, 234 and 320 in actual results.

[blackpool]

The allinanchor search that I did on Google for a particular phrase returns the EXACT SAME top ten results in the SERPS. These guys are in for a BIG shock.

My opinion is that Google is now updating in almost real time. Well certainly as fast as it can!

I've noticed lately you can almost play with your pages at will in Google.

Tweak a page one day and see your position change a few days after.

A few more days and the newer version is cached!

I'm talking newly cached versions EACH TIME of these pages!

Because of what I've seen lately, I have been messing with a page which I have changed. THREE TIMES I have seen the page recached. The amazing thing was this was all WITHIN the space of 14 days or so! Before, it was done monthly.

It seems that if you change a page nowadays Google changes your SERP position almost immediately and then comes back to recache the page 2 or 3 days later.

If this is how Google is now working and I am convinced it is, then I think it,s a great idea.

THINK ABOUT IT!

Other search engines taking months to update, Google now taking days. How good is that for the public!

Sites are being dumped BECAUSE Google IS bringing in a new algo. In the meantime we are seeing some very strange results.

Google is looking for new content at the top of the search results and it's looking for fresh sites to replace those that have hogged the top pages for too long.

IMO it's changing the algos to UNSUIT the sites that have zillions of backlinks to give the others a chance.
IMO the race for backlinks can only do harm as far as I see it and I think Google have seen this too.

While the spammers try and beat Google then Google will beat the spammers all day long from now on.

The way they will do this is by constantly changing the way they do things to stop abuse of the system.

The only way then to stay with the market will be to constantly monitor what's going on at Google and take advantage of your knowledge instead of having one person sat their all day long aquiring backlinks.

Anyone can aquire a zillion backlinks if they really wanted to and Google now knows that.

Google has changed forever and seeing what I have seen lately, I think it's for the better!
IMO opinion Google have stolen a massive march over their rivals

[oneofthe3lions]

Google has changed forever and seeing what I have seen lately, I think it's for the better!

Certainly is for the better as far as I am concerned right now as traffic has soared from yahoo and msn lately for a few sites that i know of... Showing what many realise is bound to happen short term at least- the public have been getting crap search results and are switching search engines.