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Whats With The Overmoderating?
Posted 31 March 2004 - 01:02 PM
That's rediculas...and hardly the first time this forum has been overmoderated. I prefer forums that don't cencor unless something is vulgar or tasteless.
Come on, get real people...there are some very real and very important topics that should be discussed, if every topic that could go in a bad direction gets closed before it even starts it will serve nobody.
Of course, now I suppose mine will get edited or deleted upon first reading.
Posted 31 March 2004 - 01:21 PM
Posted 31 March 2004 - 01:51 PM
Especially when else where I read about things being a "pain in the ass" and like statements that are easily deemed as offensive by some standards, and that is not only let go, but actually participated in by mods...
Edited by dbmasters, 31 March 2004 - 02:04 PM.
Posted 31 March 2004 - 02:11 PM
Posted 31 March 2004 - 02:45 PM
A discussion of the techniques different people use to Build Trust is okie dokie. Discussions naming the good or bad of individual companies and organizations isn't.
Feel free to start a thread discussing how to build trust with your visitors and prospective customers db. It would be an interesting thread, me thinks. We could all learn something from it I'm sure, since there are so many approaches.
Posted 31 March 2004 - 03:16 PM
I also know some great companies I'd like to recommend. In both cases it's potentially misleading because forum posts hang around for a long time and it's possible that one or more of these bad companies could clean up their act, and for some of these good ones to go down hill
But the tactics that make them good or bad will be more useful - for one thing, it's really easy for a bad guy to change his company name and go out again (it's pretty common for spammers) - so discussion is pretty much temperary and a waste of time. Better to know what is good or not, without identifying people. Who then can't sue for liable but have just been exposed...
My personal take on the official rules - no doubt the other Mods and Jill have their own ways to look at it.
Posted 31 March 2004 - 03:26 PM
Whatever, not my forum, I'll just find another of the dozens out there...
Posted 31 March 2004 - 03:31 PM
We just don't happen to be one of them, and don't plan to be any time soon. That is my personal preference, and it seems to work for us, generally.
Unfortunately, no forum can please all the people all the time. We're very lucky to have so many different venues to choose from these days for that very reason.
Posted 31 March 2004 - 05:15 PM
I certainly committed a blunder or two during my first few posts, but since have grown to understand the general feel for the forum and I appreciate that we don't discuss specific companies by name.
I believe that this helps keep the focus more on SEO though, on principles we can all learn from, rather than making it easy for someone to come in to the forum and ask two or three questions just to help themselves and then go off to never be heard from again.
And that's all I have to say about that.
Posted 31 March 2004 - 05:28 PM
Any company that thinks they can do a complete 180 on their TOS when their bank account gets low deserves it though. And they certainly don't Look very Smart in the process.
Posted 31 March 2004 - 05:43 PM
Hell we post all the time things like, " I dealt with seojoblogs.inc, and they were a crock of crap" or I host with greathosts.com and they are fantastic.
But having an entire thread dedicated to discussing a certain company is not really going to do a lot of good, and means that you have to watch it like a hawk, to make sure there is nothing potentially libelous posted.
Thats my thoughts anyhow, it seems to work well, (the system that is, not my thought process)
Posted 31 March 2004 - 05:53 PM
I'm the owner of the forum, and as such I'm responsible for what gets said here. I'm the only one here who can get sued, etc., if something said here ever came to that.
With that comes certain responsibility. I admit that I sometimes (where LS is concerned) have not said nice things, but I'm the only one at risk when I say stuff like that here or in my newsletter.
So is there a double standard? Heck yeah! But I have to cover my ass too and use my own judgement.
When I don't know anything about a particular company that someone else might mention here, I don't know if what's being said is true, false, bashing, or whatever. I also don't have the time to check all the facts, so I've made the decision to simply not allow it all together.
Like I said, I don't expect everyone will like the way I do this, but that's okay.
Posted 31 March 2004 - 06:33 PM
Me and my wife both make decisions in our household but I have the final say. Is that being a male shovanist? Some might think so. But along with having the final say, I also will bear the blame if I am wrong. And believe me, sometimes I am wrong. But I am going to protect my wife from having to bear the responsibility of a wrong decision that affects our household. We decide things together but ultimately if I have final say because I am the leader of the house and if it doesn't work out right, then I am happy to bear the full consequences that come along with it.
Jill owns this forum and has given many, many people the ability to post their opinions, seek advice, etc. However she has the final say as she is the one who is ultimately responsible for what is said here. If she doesn't want to talk about specific companies whether good or bad, who is anyone else to go against her? Therefore if you don't like that fact, then all I can say is to start your own forum.
Posted 31 March 2004 - 06:51 PM
For example: What did *I* do wrong such that I hired a poorly performing XYZ? What would I do differently next time? What can I teach others (beyond avoid XYZ) so that they don't suffer the same fate? You know, that fish and fishing cliche.
Posted 31 March 2004 - 06:57 PM
David...not sure to make of the boss of the house thing, but glad it works for you!
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