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Is This Legal Or Not!


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#1 bouly99

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Posted 30 March 2004 - 04:25 PM

I am interested to know if my competitor's site's practices is legal or not from a google standpoint.

if you go to google and search for "lebanon flowers" or "flowers lebanon", they show up #1 in the web page results (Flora2000). Click on that link, and and scroll all the way to the bottom to the footer, u will see many links linking to Lebanon1.asp, Lebanon2.asp, Lebanon3.asp, Lebanon4.asp, and all these pages are essentially the same. Each link has a different link text with a different variation on the same keyphrase.

Is this considered good or not???

I am trying to get my site, zhoors.com, to show up high for those keywords. But if google allows such practices with people like Flora2000, I can never really beat my competitors unless I do some more trickery as well...Any ideas???

Edited by bouly99, 30 March 2004 - 06:14 PM.


#2 magician

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Posted 30 March 2004 - 08:15 PM

Obviously they are using an application that I can't name because it was edited on an other thread!
http://www.highranki...?showtopic=5011

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Posted 30 March 2004 - 08:20 PM

The truth is that they are SPAM mongers.

The other truth is that it is doubtful if Google will do anything about it.
With all their talk ..... talk ..... talk..... there is not much action when it comes to getting rid of search engine spam.

You just have to fight it by having a better site...better optimized, more link building, etc. What a shame.

Of course, this is MY opinion, so take it for what it is worth. :lol:

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Posted 30 March 2004 - 09:39 PM

Legal is the wrong word, vbut it certainly isn't what would be considered within the guidelines.

So what will Google do? Who knows?

There is a myth that Gogole does nothing. There is also a myth that they do, or indeed should do, something specific.

Google's stated approach is to combat spam programmatically. They do use (or probably do) a combination of tight keyword density filters, link weighting and gramatical checks to keep spam in check. This is all good, because human review is costly, ineffective and not solving the problem in the longer term. For you, in the short term, it may be little comfort, but then business isn't a short term proposition. In fact, there is a term for short term business stratagies: Scams.

These days, Google also don't ban sites / spam, but penalise sites out of existence. I have one client with the dreaded no PR penalty. They are in the index alright, they get regularly crawled, but try finding them. That is a brilliant, subtle way to get rid of spam, that often makes it hard to understand what has actually happenned to a site.

To bring it all back full circle, what you should do to combat such competitor tactics is not assume that:

I can never really beat my competitors unless I do some more trickery as well


And instead work hard to beat the them using strategies that will have lasting, long term effects. This includes strategies such as building more pages, getting more links and improving non-SEO aspects of your site and business, such as usability and perhaps a CRM, so that you build long term customer loyalty and repeat visits.

Spam techniques are lazy, short term solutions to the long term problem of survivng as a business. If you build for the inevitable future, when / if spammy sites get found out, you will still be there, chugging along. And if you build customer loyalty, your need for new business via search engines, and the inevitable ups and downs, wont be as telling.

Edited by projectphp, 30 March 2004 - 09:47 PM.


#5 bouly99

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Posted 30 March 2004 - 11:11 PM

Well, I did submit that site a while ago (3 months ago) to google's spam submission, but that didn't do anything...It just pisses me off that this competitor is enjoying free clicks while I have to pay an arm and a leg for google adwords just to show up first which is key to my business.

I appreciate all your advice, and I won't go the route of spamming, but I have to assume that at some point, having such results can only hurt google. These people have been #1 since I started tracking this keyword all the way back to September of 2003 till today...




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