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New Website After Getting Penalty On Top Ranked Existing One?


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#1 tdavid88

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Posted 09 May 2014 - 05:49 PM

I will explain my situation:
 
I got penalty from google like 19 months ago after having like 2000 unique visits a day it dropped to 200 a day...
 
really bad and we tried to send reconsideration requests more than 7 times and nothing has been changed.
 
We got to the conculusion that the best thing to do is to open a new website (correct me if i'm wrong).
 
and I have some questions that some of you guys might be helpful with them:
 
 
 
1. How long will it take to start and seeing results?
 
2. Is it realistic to expect results in such a competitive field of jewelry where a lot of the websites have been around for much longer?
 
3. What type of expense and man hours are we talking about?
 
4. Is it better to make one website or couple of them which specialized in a unique area?


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Posted 10 May 2014 - 03:34 AM

 

I got penalty from google like 19 months ago after having like 2000 unique visits a day it dropped to 200 a day...
 

 

How do you 'know' it was a 'penalty'? What had you done to manipulate Google results?

A drop in "unique visitors" usually means that they became 'repeat' visits instead and, were all these "unique" visits from Google referrals?

 

 

we tried to send reconsideration requests more than 7 times and nothing has been changed.

Had you cleaned up and/or removed whatever it was that you had been using to 'game' Google's results before the request was sent?

 

 

We got to the conculusion that the best thing to do is to open a new website (correct me if i'm wrong).
 

You're probably wrong.

 

Answers:

1: Somewhere between soon and never.

 

2: Who knows?

 

3: Just one. Unless the 'specialised' areas are "chalk and cheese" different.


Edited by chrishirst, 10 May 2014 - 03:34 AM.


#3 tdavid88

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Posted 10 May 2014 - 08:32 AM

How do you 'know' it was a 'penalty'? What had you done to manipulate Google results?
A drop in "unique visitors" usually means that they became 'repeat' visits instead and, were all these "unique" visits from Google referrals?

 
We got a message in google webmaster tools that we have Unnatural inbound links
 
although we tried to purchase links only from high ranked and real websites in our niche they still thought the links are not good...
 
We had a drop in "unique visitors" only from google and after this message I did 1 + 1 and it looks like a penalty...

 

Had you cleaned up and/or removed whatever it was that you had been using to 'game' Google's results before the request was sent?


In each reconsideration request we have removed the bad links: bad UI experience, but rank, not real websites, links with exact match anchor etc and while removing links adding new fresh unique content to our website.

those that was not removed sent to the disavow tool, but still every request has been declined.
 

You're probably wrong.


Do you have other suggestion other than creating a new website?



#4 Jill

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Posted 10 May 2014 - 08:58 AM

You're going to have to figure out a way to get the word out about your great website, content, products, services, etc. to those who might be in the position to link to it.

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Posted 10 May 2014 - 09:45 AM

 

We got a message in google webmaster tools that we have Unnatural inbound links

That is not a "penalty", it's a warning that your crappy link 'building' methods is doing your site no favours and any 'value' that it may have been providing has been nulled. YOUR site hasn't been 'penalised', the URLs where links pointing to your 'site' can be found have been "penalised"

 

 

Do you have other suggestion other than creating a new website?

Don't do 'link building' for search engine 'rankings'.



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Posted 10 May 2014 - 10:48 AM

We got a message in google webmaster tools that we have Unnatural inbound links
 
although we tried to purchase links only from high ranked and real websites in our niche they still thought the links are not good...
 
We had a drop in "unique visitors" only from google and after this message I did 1 + 1 and it looks like a penalty...


For future reference, here is a brief roundup of actions Google might take when you buy links.
  • They may never realize you bought the links
  • They may deduce that the links are paid and ignore them
  • They may send you a vague message saying they have ignored some links ("Unnatural Links Warning")
  • Their algorithm may downgrade the sites that sold you links but there is no message to anyone
  • Their Webspam team may penalize your site and send you a message telling you they did so
You can lose a lot of traffic because your links have lost value, or because an algorithm has downgraded your site (you could have been hit by a Panda downgrade, for example), or because your competitors suddenly surge ahead of you with more aggressive optimization.

It's not always clear why you lose traffic but in this case I think Chris summed it up nicely for you: you lost the value of the links that were previously helping you.

You should be able to earn better links with your existing site -- earn, not buy. You'll have to create a user experience that really delights your customers.

#7 Jill

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Posted 11 May 2014 - 11:09 AM

That is not a "penalty", it's a warning that your crappy link 'building' methods is doing your site no favours and any 'value' that it may have been providing has been nulled. YOUR site hasn't been 'penalised', the URLs where links pointing to your 'site' can be found have been "penalised"

 

 

 

 

Actually, most of the time it is indeed a penalty.






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