19 replies to this topic

[SelfMade]

So, I've got a site ranking well.

 

Can a bar at the top of the site (wordpress) affect my rankings?

 

It's just a Heads up bar with a link to my Getresponse hosted web form.

 

The link links to my Getresponse app..could thast affect anything?

 

 

[chrishirst]

No

[SelfMade]

Are you sure though?

 

This is really important, I've only just put it up today.

 

I don't want google to think that linking to an app is suspicious, or because it's at the top of my page to mess anything up?..

 

You know what i'm talking about right?..it's a plugin. An alert/notificatiion bar plugin.

 

Does anyone else have an opinion too.

 

Are you all in agreeement with chrishirst?..

Edited by SelfMade, 14 January 2013 - 03:47 PM.

[Jill]

 

 

Are you all in agreeement with chrishirst?..

 

 

 

Yes. 

[qwerty]

What is it about this link makes you think it could get you in trouble? The fact that it's at the top of the page? Why would that be a problem? Is it the fact that it links to a form that's hosted on another domain? Unless that domain has a bad reputation, there's nothing to worry about with that.

 

It's a form. It's useful to your site's users. Why should that be scary?

[SelfMade]

Yeah it's just a getresponse form.

 

IO just thought that with google following links and all, getresponse has a lot of users and a lot of idiots to boot too.

 

Ok cheers guys, I'll take a risk and leave it there.

[chrishirst]

No risk involved.

 

Well none other than the risk to your sanity trying find things that "might" be a problem instead of simply building your site for real users.

 

 

Google is prepared to send you traffic for nowt, PROVIDED you simply create documents that are aimed at your's and THEIR USERS, it's that simple.

 

No looking for the latest tricks.

No algo chasing psuedo scientific drivel.

No looking for what links Google will "like".

No spammy "bookmarking links".

No time wasted on useless "Press releases"

No time wasted building "fan" pages than no one is a "fan" of.

No writing [or spinning] cruddy "articles" for junk "article submission" sites.

 

 

Just the freedom to write content for your own site and promote to whomever you wish to.

[SelfMade]

No, I think you give G more credit than you need to.

 

It is a computer.

 

It does not have intellect to "decide" whether "a" "human" would find that content useful.

 

It can only go by what it "see's".

 

Which is why  "algo chasing psuedo scientific drivel" does hold some credibility.

 

It can only send me traffic for nowt if it see's my page as relevent and the only way it can do that is via "algo chasing psuedo scientific drivel".

Edited by SelfMade, 14 January 2013 - 05:31 PM.

[piskie]

It can only send me traffic for nowt if it see's my page as relevent and the only way it can do that is via "algo chasing psuedo scientific drivel"

If that is true, then you are acknowledging that there is little of value within your site to encourage Google to send visitors.

[chrishirst]

It is a computer.

 

It certainly is, which is what makes it so damned good at seeing patterns and identifying them. Add to that the massive amount of data that Google has got over the years from document URLs that Google users have "demoted" from their results, removed from their personalised results, rejected by returning to the results and refining or modifying their search in some way. Then there is the quality committee of people who 'rate' selections of documents. So you are right that it cannot "read" documents and make a subjective decision on the "quality" of that document, but it can make objective analysis based on various document properties and attributes. The algorithm does EXACTLY THAT for positive qualities so it can do exactly the same for negative qualities.

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And no, that is NOT latent semantic indexing/analysis.

[SelfMade]

If that is true, then you are acknowledging that there is little of value within your site to encourage Google to send visitors.

 

Negative.

 

That's not what I'm saying.

 

I'm saying, that google is nothing more than a bot at it's most fundemental level.

 

I'm saying that it relies on certain elements to determine where to put your page.

 

Anybody who disagree's with that needs to take time out.

[piskie]

algo chasing psuedo scientific drivel

 

OR

 

it relies on certain elements to determine where to put your page

 

These 2 don't sound like the same thing to me.

[SelfMade]

 

These 2 don't sound like the same thing to me.

 

EXACTLY!

 

You just proved my point.

 

chrishirst said "algo chasing psuedo scientific drivel"...not me.

 

I guess chrishirst thinks "algo chasing psuedo scientific drivel" is the SAME as on page SEO.

Edited by SelfMade, 17 January 2013 - 05:42 AM.

[chrishirst]

I guess chrishirst thinks "algo chasing psuedo scientific drivel" is the SAME as on page SEO.

 

Wrong on that too.

 

 

I KNOW that "algo chasing psuedo scientific drivel" is absolutely nothing at all to do with ANY kind of SEO.

 

Done the "Formula SEO" which is the "do A,B,C and great results are BOUND to come" and it sort of worked back in the last century.

 

But pray tell me, if everybody follows exactly the same formula. ie key words in bold, italics, headings, title, URL, domain name, alt attributes, an exact key word "density", blah, blah, blah HOW on earth is ANY URL going to be better than another?????

is absolutely nothing at all to do with ANY kind of SEO.

 

Perhaps I should add "other than BAD SEO" to that statement

[chrishirst]

Just as an after thought:

 

 

Why is it than nobody seems to understand that providing Google with EXACTLY what they want, which is the best documents to show THEIR users, is TEN times easier than hunting for the latest SEO trick that somebody has assumed is what "Google wants"