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Too Good To Be True? (seo)


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#16 Lynn Terry

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Posted 23 August 2003 - 12:12 AM

I agree, Mel, that I need to continue researching keywords and keyword phrases that reach a large number of Shari's targeted market... I'm still learning - and enjoying every minute of it!

These are the additional terms where Shari's site ranked - taken from her stats, and the search engine results that actually prompted a click-through:

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On Yahoo:

#9 disneyland kids fly free

#16 disney romance

#2 & #18 disney vacation tips

#4 alaska airlines disneyland specials

#3 disney vacation plans

#2 disneyland intimate weddings

#3 disneyland wedding locations

#4 DISNEY KIDS FLY FREE


On Google:

#1 disneyland vacation tips

#3 disney vacation tips

#13 disney honeymoon packages

#13 honeymoon in disneyland

#21 disney different lands

#20 Disneyland Characters


On AOL:

#7 Disney wedding packages

#2 travel plans to disney


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Like I said... still researching, still learning :thumbup:
Any input is greatly appreciated!

#17 dimok

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Posted 23 August 2003 - 05:20 AM

Congrats, Lynn!

Supposely the result you have reached is not so difficult to reach. BTW, what Wordtracker say about these keywords? How often they are queried?

What traffic you have for now? How many people visit your site a day?

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Posted 23 August 2003 - 07:59 AM

Hey Lynn,

If you haven't already, you can do some quick keyword evaluation for popularity with Wordtracker, Overture Keyword Suggestion Tool or 3rd party software programs like Good Keywords.

Of course if Disney has defined the target keyword phrases for you then these tools would only be useful for your own information. If notable discrepancies exist, you could bring it up to your client though.

Nice work on the site!

#19 Lynn Terry

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Posted 23 August 2003 - 10:22 AM

Thank you! To get 16 visits through search engines before we even "went live" with the site just blew me away! Getting indexed, being found in a search, gaining subscribers and even the first client through the site... ALL came while we were still tweaking and before we began promoting at all. We literally just made the final changes on Tuesday (8/19). I wasnt even able to view the site via domain name until Wednesday! (which is why you see the IP address in some of the search results)

I admit that I didnt research the keywords that I chose to optimize each page with... I simply went with a 'gut feeling' on that while creating the pages with the potential visitor in mind. I will definitely go back and do that now to see if I can fine-tune the site :whip:

Also, I didnt mean to imply that Disney chose the keywords or keyword phrases, but that the actual text/content couldnt be changed in many instances, including having some of it bold or italicized, or using certain phrases and not being allowed to use others, etc.

So... I am off to do that research, I'll keep you posted! Thanks again!!

#20 Lynn Terry

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Posted 23 August 2003 - 10:37 AM

As for traffic, dimok, I just checked: so far we have had 42 visitors that specifically came from the search engines (AOL, Yahoo & Google) - it was 16 the last time I checked and posted!

There is other traffic as well, of course - some from here, some from the link on my profile page, plenty of direct page views (some of which could be Shari and I checking each page as we tweaked on the site, etc).

These are small numbers yet, I realize :whip: But definitely encouraging!! The challenge is to research keywords, increase site traffic from the search engines... and then to watch closely to see what percentage of visitors choose to subscribe, purchase or make an inquiry.

This has all been very fun to watch and track so far! I'm glad Shari agreed to let me use her site as a "guinea pig" LOL - isnt she a gem? :zz:

#21 Lynn Terry

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Posted 23 August 2003 - 10:53 AM

Okay... I'm in WordTracker. I believe it was on this forum that I had posted a few weeks ago about being confused on how all of this works... maybe you can help me a bit.

When I see the "count", this is an approximate number for how many times that word/phrase has been searched in the last two months.... right?? So to break it down by day, you would divide it by 60? Or by month, you would divide it by 2? Or am I way off here??

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#22 Jill

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Posted 23 August 2003 - 11:08 AM

I believe it's the number estimated in the last 24 hours across ALL major search engines.

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#23 toprank

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Posted 23 August 2003 - 11:38 AM

Wordtracker gets its data from meta engines such as www.metacrawler.com and www.dogpile.com. So the data is a little different than searches conducted on individual search engines. That said, it's about the best tool available. Wordtracker does have a FAQ, tutorials and knowledge base that can help you figure it out.

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Posted 23 August 2003 - 02:45 PM

Lyn,

How are you?

Yes you did a good job on your web sites SEO, but you are also a little bit over rating your own success by just checking key phrases that have at least 3 words.

Don't get me wrong,.. you did a great job,.. many web masters will be jealous. :rolleyes:

When you manage to get those high rankings at phrases like "disney vacation", "disneyland", etc,... then you will see the real advantage that SEO gives you. Also you will find that SEO on the shorter terms is a lot more difficult. But you definitely are doing very well,..

congrats,

Peter

#25 Mel

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Posted 24 August 2003 - 12:30 AM

Hi Lynn:
The count figure in Wordtracker is the number of occurances in the database of that term. This database covers the past 60 days of data from a couple of metacrawlers.

If you want to see the estimated numberof searches daily on a particular search engine you will have to go the the competition results under predict, but be aware that this is only a statistical projection based on the data in the Wordtracker database and the market share of the search engine involved.

#26 Lynn Terry

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Posted 24 August 2003 - 02:50 AM

Thank you, Mel.

I agree, Peter - I'm just a bit excited about the potential is all :dance:
I honestly didnt expect to get indexed AT ALL that quickly - much less have over 40 click through's from searches on AOL/Google/Yahoo!

You're correct, though, and I am currently working on more in-depth keyword research in preparation for the link-building strategy. Thanks!!




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