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Problem With Paid Inclusion
Posted 21 August 2003 - 03:18 PM
While I understand that paid inclusion should have no effect on ones ranking, I find it odd that this happened so soon to our submission to paid inclusion, as the site itself has had no changes made to it during this period of time. Anyone have any idea what other things to look for in a case like this? It is not in a super competitive field, and generally there is not a lot of movement in the SERPS for these turms from what I've seen.
Posted 21 August 2003 - 09:01 PM
Basically, if you rank well, don't go for PFI, as while they don't help or hurt rankings, it does CHANGE the way pages are ranked, and may possibly "reset" parts of the SE, e.g. Inktomi etc, algo. This includes factors such as age of pages, time in index etc ad nausem. I can't tell you exactly or positively how this happens and occurs or why, I just know PFI changes something.
Sorry that no one ever made that clear to you, but I am not sure everyone knows about it. I didn't until I read that newsletter. Essentially, PFI is only good to get pages launched, up and running, and when pages are frequently changed, such as during an active optimisation campaign of fidling with pages. After that, changing could actually be harmful, especially if the site is doing really well.
Posted 22 August 2003 - 04:02 AM
But it is so true. PFI re-evaluates the page and may result in falls as well as rises. Leave well enough alone is always a good maxim.
Posted 22 August 2003 - 03:16 PM
Posted 23 August 2003 - 04:37 AM
However, be warned, if you do decide to remove it from PFI! The page you have in PFI will disappear until the next "natural" update - which could be a few weeks away. But when it re-appears there is a strong possibility that it may be in a higher position if the "natural" algo rates it as a worthy page (as it obviously did in the past).
Posted 25 August 2003 - 09:06 AM
Posted 26 August 2003 - 09:09 AM
PositionTech has not replied to my e-mail yet, so they are really not impressing me with their customer service at the moment :learn:, their website says 24-48 hour turnaround on e-mail, and we are going on 5 days now.
However, InfoSpider is really wowwing me. They replied to my e-mail within a day or so, and while the majority of it was canned response it did have some good tips on how they rank their pages. Anyways, they have customer support via a online chat, so I went there to cancel my problematic URL's. Instead of just canceling me, they took the time to ask me what my problem was and helped me trouble shoot what was going on, and we ended up finding a solution to my problem. I really can't reccommend InfoSpider enough now, A+ support IMO.
The problem with the site in question was that there were three domain names pointing to the same site, and AV saw them as three sites with duplicate content. So I assume that when it first indexed the site there was just the one domain, and it got a fair ranking -- then when it reassessed it for PFI, it caught the fact that there was three domains and it got a drop because of it... all makes sense really. This site is not one I have been managing, so I unfortunantly did not know a whole about this site and its history on the internet. If all goes well when the other domains are deleted from the index, I will follow suit and try to do the same with Inktomi and Fast.
I'm a happy camper for the moment, things are looking up.
Edited by patrickh, 26 August 2003 - 09:15 AM.
Posted 26 August 2003 - 11:03 AM
I recently signed a new client's site up for PFI at Inktomi and Fast...the first time I've done this but the client was in a huge hurry and I cound think of no other way.
So, now what happens when my one year expires? Will this site be dropped at the end of the year and not picked back up until the next 'natural go-around?'
Do we now have to resign each year to prevent losing the ~2 months traffic? It's not like it's a lot of money and I would much rather spend it than risk having my clients site drop off the face of the earth even for a short period of time. But, I don't want to spend it if I don't have to.
Does anyone know?
Posted 26 August 2003 - 11:40 AM
Posted 26 August 2003 - 11:58 AM
Hey, I'd rather be lucky than good. (actually, I'd settle for either)
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