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mal4mac
, Mar 12 2004 02:35 PM
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Jill
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Posted 12 March 2004 - 02:44 PM
Welcome Malcolm!
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Posted 12 March 2004 - 02:46 PM
Welcome to the HR forum, Malcolm!
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mal4mac
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Posted 13 March 2004 - 06:51 AM
Hi Jill and mcanerin,
Thanks, Jill, for helping me get started in the forum. Now how can I start a good old controversial pub discussion?
I joined your forum, Jill, because of your stress on 'ethical SEO'. I've been thinking about purchasing Web Position Gold but your site and the excellent O'Riley book 'Google Hacks' persuaded me to hold off. Still it would be nice to know if a page is at position 746 or 789456 for a chosen keyword. How do you find this out without upsetting Google? Or do you simply rely on your years of experience and 'know' you will get on that first page.
Any favourite 'legal tools'? I like Wordtracker, I recently purchased a license for this and it's worth it for the entertainment value alone!
I've just figured out how to access the Google API from my favourite programming environment (VisualWorks Smalltalk). Has anyone produced a WPG equivalent using the Google API, or is that frowned on as well? Do you think they would be open to someone selling a commercial product based on the Google API? If it competed directly with WPG then less people would use WPG and then Google's database would not get so heavily bombed.
I notice some people giving free access to position checkers on the net, are Google happy about this?
- malcolm
Thanks, Jill, for helping me get started in the forum. Now how can I start a good old controversial pub discussion?
I joined your forum, Jill, because of your stress on 'ethical SEO'. I've been thinking about purchasing Web Position Gold but your site and the excellent O'Riley book 'Google Hacks' persuaded me to hold off. Still it would be nice to know if a page is at position 746 or 789456 for a chosen keyword. How do you find this out without upsetting Google? Or do you simply rely on your years of experience and 'know' you will get on that first page.
Any favourite 'legal tools'? I like Wordtracker, I recently purchased a license for this and it's worth it for the entertainment value alone!
I've just figured out how to access the Google API from my favourite programming environment (VisualWorks Smalltalk). Has anyone produced a WPG equivalent using the Google API, or is that frowned on as well? Do you think they would be open to someone selling a commercial product based on the Google API? If it competed directly with WPG then less people would use WPG and then Google's database would not get so heavily bombed.
I notice some people giving free access to position checkers on the net, are Google happy about this?
- malcolm
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Posted 13 March 2004 - 09:25 AM
Welcome Malcolm !
I tend to do my rank checking, what little I do, by hand. IMO it doesn't matter if you're at position 746 or position 789456. The goal is Top 10. So until I get into the Top 30 it doesn't do much good to check. Just my opinion.
There are all kinds of tools out there. You'll see most of them discussed in various threads around here. The main thing to remember about any tool is that you need to approach any of them with a modicum of skepticism. If any tool could truly get you #1 rankings all by itself, everybody would know it. Including the search engines. Which would then simply change their algorithm.
Use them to automate things and speed up the research work. But don't trust everything they tell you if something simply doesn't make sense.
re: the Google API. My understanding is that most of the free rank checkers out there that use the API are okay. Most of the folks who have built those have gotten Google's blessing, since that's part of the reason why Google released the API in the first place.
However, if memory serves, the API license states specifically that it cannot be used for Commercial purposes. So your software idea would likely run afoul of that clause. You might want to check out the API license again, because it's been a few months since I last looked at it.
I tend to do my rank checking, what little I do, by hand. IMO it doesn't matter if you're at position 746 or position 789456. The goal is Top 10. So until I get into the Top 30 it doesn't do much good to check. Just my opinion.
There are all kinds of tools out there. You'll see most of them discussed in various threads around here. The main thing to remember about any tool is that you need to approach any of them with a modicum of skepticism. If any tool could truly get you #1 rankings all by itself, everybody would know it. Including the search engines. Which would then simply change their algorithm.
Use them to automate things and speed up the research work. But don't trust everything they tell you if something simply doesn't make sense.
re: the Google API. My understanding is that most of the free rank checkers out there that use the API are okay. Most of the folks who have built those have gotten Google's blessing, since that's part of the reason why Google released the API in the first place.
However, if memory serves, the API license states specifically that it cannot be used for Commercial purposes. So your software idea would likely run afoul of that clause. You might want to check out the API license again, because it's been a few months since I last looked at it.
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