Jump to content

  • Log in with Facebook Log in with Twitter Log In with Google      Sign In   
  • Create Account

Subscribe to HRA Now!

 



Are you a Google Analytics enthusiast?

Share and download Custom Google Analytics Reports, dashboards and advanced segments--for FREE! 

 



 

 www.CustomReportSharing.com 

From the folks who brought you High Rankings!



Photo
- - - - -

Rank Checker, Any Problems?


  • Please log in to reply
17 replies to this topic

#1 kevs

kevs

    HR 5

  • Active Members
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 369 posts

Posted 26 July 2010 - 07:50 PM

I dig rank checker in Firefox, reminds me of old web position gold.
question: web position gold: were issues of Google getting really upset off seeing you doing a lot of searches. Is using rank checker the same thing?

#2 Jill

Jill

    Recovering SEO

  • Admin
  • 33,244 posts

Posted 26 July 2010 - 08:20 PM

Yes, they're all the same. Google dislikes them and they don't work anyway since there's no such thing as your specific ranking for any given phrase. See my article on Why Rankings Are a Poor Measure of Success for more info.

#3 kevs

kevs

    HR 5

  • Active Members
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 369 posts

Posted 26 July 2010 - 09:17 PM

Thanks Jill,
Ok, so it uses the search engines on your computer, and those engines know you are doing these multiple searches, and can theoretically penalize you for it?

Now what do you mean, "no such thing as your specific ranking for any given phrase"

If I type in a phrase an I rank in 1-10 results for a year straight, I'm doing good for that search phrase no??

#4 kevs

kevs

    HR 5

  • Active Members
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 369 posts

Posted 26 July 2010 - 09:21 PM

Nice article!

#5 chrishirst

chrishirst

    A not so moderate moderator.

  • Moderator
  • 7,718 posts
  • Location:Blackpool UK

Posted 28 July 2010 - 04:54 AM

QUOTE(kevs @ Jul 27 2010, 03:17 AM) View Post
Thanks Jill,
Ok, so it uses the search engines on your computer, and those engines know you are doing these multiple searches, and can theoretically penalize you for it?
Dead easy these days with Google accounts linked to particular sites.
Previously it had to be done by tracking what sites the searcher clicked to on a regular basis after running certain types of searches.


QUOTE(kevs @ Jul 27 2010, 03:17 AM) View Post
Now what do you mean, "no such thing as your specific ranking for any given phrase"
Since 2004, what you see is not what everybody sees

QUOTE(kevs @ Jul 27 2010, 03:17 AM) View Post
If I type in a phrase an I rank in 1-10 results for a year straight, I'm doing good for that search phrase no??
Maybe maybe not.
Do you get the same results from every single computer you tested from, logged or logged out?
Do you get the same results from various parts of the world?

Have the traffic & conversions been stable for that phrase for a year?
Have the Google referrals specifically, been stable for a year?


#6 kevs

kevs

    HR 5

  • Active Members
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 369 posts

Posted 28 July 2010 - 10:11 AM

Chris, when say dead easy, you mean easy for Google to know doing multiple searches at once.
that said, do they care? What if you use this tool 1x week?

---------
Firefox has an add on to see results from different parts of the world, and if you log out from Google, your results should be fairly accurate.
True you have to convert, but search phrase results are still very powerful. Honestly, even when I rank well for everything, it does not mean a lot of business for reasons mentioned in that article. It's a very fractured world.

I'm in an artistic field so nothing is stable ever, but will good SEO at least one can stay afloat.

#7 Jill

Jill

    Recovering SEO

  • Admin
  • 33,244 posts

Posted 28 July 2010 - 12:10 PM

QUOTE
that said, do they care? What if you use this tool 1x week?


Yes they care a lot. They don't want you to ever do automated queries on them.

#8 kevs

kevs

    HR 5

  • Active Members
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 369 posts

Posted 28 July 2010 - 06:49 PM

Jill,
what do you think the algo for that is. How could that translate to a penalty on you?

#9 qwerty

qwerty

    HR 10

  • Moderator
  • 8,695 posts
  • Location:Somerville, MA

Posted 28 July 2010 - 10:07 PM

They'd penalize you, not your site. Basically, they'd block users at your IP address from running searches.

#10 sem147

sem147

    HR 1

  • Members
  • Pip
  • 3 posts

Posted 29 July 2010 - 06:30 AM

Different rank checkers show different indexing results.

#11 Jill

Jill

    Recovering SEO

  • Admin
  • 33,244 posts

Posted 29 July 2010 - 07:11 AM

QUOTE
what do you think the algo for that is. How could that translate to a penalty on you?


And if your IP is a company one that would match your site, they may penalize the site.

#12 kevs

kevs

    HR 5

  • Active Members
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 369 posts

Posted 29 July 2010 - 03:10 PM

thanks guys, good thing I remembered that issue from years back with WP-Gold.

I'll use it very sparingly if at all.
I think it could be good for a quick search on 4-6 terms every couple weeks -- just not 50 terms every few days.

I feel sorry for those are using it a lot and not aware at all of these ramifications.

#13 chrishirst

chrishirst

    A not so moderate moderator.

  • Moderator
  • 7,718 posts
  • Location:Blackpool UK

Posted 30 July 2010 - 04:23 AM

BTW,
WPG gets a specific mention

http://www.google.co...mp;answer=66357

#14 kevs

kevs

    HR 5

  • Active Members
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 369 posts

Posted 30 July 2010 - 11:41 AM

Yeah, but that's confusing --their terms of service for using their browser?

#15 qwerty

qwerty

    HR 10

  • Moderator
  • 8,695 posts
  • Location:Somerville, MA

Posted 30 July 2010 - 12:41 PM

No, it's not about using their browser. It's about using their search engine, using any browser, or any other user-agent.




0 user(s) are reading this topic

0 members, 0 guests, 0 anonymous users

We are now a read-only forum.
 
No new posts or registrations allowed.