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Found Out That Our So Called Seo Guy Build So Many Spammy Links


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#1 alohame

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Posted 10 April 2010 - 12:23 PM

Our domain is a year old and website is live last 6 months.

Around 3 months ago we ranked page 2 and 9 for our main keywords. We thought we would hire someone to do our SEO, which we did.

After a few weeks of hiring SEO, we saw a substantial drop and rise. A month ago we saw google indexing some backlinks and just wanted to checkout them. We saw quite bad spammy backlinks even a few of them have malwares on their website. So we stopped with this so called SEO provider immediately. Altaugh we were advised it would not hurt us.

We kept on dropping and we purchased a backlink checker software and checked it again yesterday and found that backlinks increased dramatically (around 500) and almost all of those links are coming from very spammy sites, blog comments and what looks like linkfarms (so many links on the page, hidden links, wrapped links, etc). I don't know what we did to that SEO provider for them to do this to us:( We believe they did it.

The only good ones (links) are which we have built ourselves. There are just a few and coming from botw.co.uk (directory), blog posts, supplier etc. Just a couple from forums which our customers have put links to us.

Now we believe this has caused our huge drop. 1 keyword is on page 5 and the other one is on page 35. And this drop is still happening. We have invested a lot of time and money to this website and don't know what to do.

We are concerned it's going to have a huge effect on us and don't know how to recover. The visitors already dropped down in huge numbers.

My questions are:

Is this the reason we keep on dropping from serps?

If yes what can we do to recover?

If you could advise we would greatly appreciate it.

thanks

#2 Jill

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Posted 10 April 2010 - 12:30 PM

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Is this the reason we keep on dropping from serps?


Could be. Especially since you're new and don't have a lot of high quality links.

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If yes what can we do to recover?


Build something that's worthy of links and then get good links pointing to your site. A handful of authoritative links which are TRUE votes for your site should hopefully counteract the spam ones.

#3 Michael Martinez

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Posted 12 April 2010 - 06:08 PM

If you're going to hire someone to do your link building, they should be willing to discuss their techniques and principles with you up front. Not everyone is willing to share all their resources but a link builder should be accountable to the client for the work that is done.

Clients are entitled to full, detailed reporting.

#4 SEOSoftware

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Posted 20 April 2010 - 06:17 PM

You are in whats called as 'The Google Dance'.

When new sites gain a rather large number of back links (which seems to be..overnight)... Google will dance your site around (High, then low, then high again).

If more larger back links are gained, it will put you in the Google Sandbox.

Think of this as a temporary suspension from google. This is actually the best time to be building links to your website. In 2-3 months, google will un suspend your site, and you will go from being on page #873, to #3.

Dont fret, but he was actually helping you more so than hurting you.

(It takes more spammy links than high quality links to gain the same result, but spammy links can be done automated..which actually causes for faster rankings)

#5 qwerty

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Posted 21 April 2010 - 12:49 AM

The Google Dance and the Sandbox? Has someone recycled those terms and given them new meanings or are you suggesting that the terms, as they were used years ago, are still valid?

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Posted 21 April 2010 - 07:49 AM

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When new sites gain a rather large number of back links (which seems to be..overnight)... Google will dance your site around (High, then low, then high again).


Really?

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If more larger back links are gained, it will put you in the Google Sandbox.


It will?

Me thinks you've been reading some really old articles somewhere SEOSoftware. I hope your seosoftware isn't based upon these old things that may or may not ever have been true.

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Posted 21 April 2010 - 01:20 PM

QUOTE(qwerty @ Apr 21 2010, 06:49 AM) View Post
The Google Dance and the Sandbox? Has someone recycled those terms and given them new meanings or are you suggesting that the terms, as they were used years ago, are still valid?

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#8 Michael Martinez

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Posted 21 April 2010 - 03:25 PM

I've actually seen an increase in uses of "Google dance" over the past few months across the Web.

I suppose that indicates a new generation of SEOs are trying to come up to speed on the terminology.

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Posted 23 April 2010 - 05:38 AM

QUOTE(Michael Martinez @ Apr 21 2010, 09:25 PM) View Post
I've actually seen an increase in uses of "Google dance" over the past few months across the Web.

I suppose that indicates a new generation of SEOs are trying to come up to speed on the terminology.

Trouble is, this "new generation" also seem to think that "Excite", "HotBot" and "Alta Vista" still exist as separate and independent entities.

Certainly a knowledge of the evolution of the search engines to what they are now is useful. However these people seem to be unable to grasp that 5, 10 or 15 years ago is history. Now I will be among the first to point out that good accurate information and advice does not have a "sell by" or an expiry date, but the peuedo scientific formulaic (SEO by numbers) stuff does, and unfortunately it is these long dead tricks that persist and very often gain ground.

"A lie can be halfway around the world before the truth can get it's pants on" (Winston Churchill paraphrasing Mark Twain)

#10 1dmf

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Posted 23 April 2010 - 06:36 AM

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"A lie can be halfway around the world before the truth can get it's pants on"
is that what you tell the missus?

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#11 Scottie

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Posted 23 April 2010 - 10:56 AM

Hey, 1dmf... is that free Google Dance music you are promoting in your signature?

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#12 BossBozz

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Posted 01 June 2010 - 03:20 PM

As far as I am aware Google don't punish you for inbound links no matter where they're from. If they did then that would cause the problem of having competing sites engaging in sabotage campaigns that are designed to ruin your PR by creating spammy links to you. Instead those spammy sites and link farms etc will be penalised themselves and so any inbound links from them will carry little to no link juice into your site. You will be penalised for outbound links to questionable sites so you might want to check your outbound links if this SEO guy had access to your websites source code? The drop you've witnessed may be from losing the link juice from a site that had a decent PR and then got slapped for engaging in questionable link building practices.




#13 Michael Martinez

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Posted 01 June 2010 - 06:38 PM

QUOTE(BossBozz @ Jun 1 2010, 01:20 PM) View Post
As far as I am aware Google don't punish you for inbound links no matter where they're from. If they did then that would cause the problem of having competing sites engaging in sabotage campaigns that are designed to ruin your PR by creating spammy links to you....


Well, with that one statement you just hit the SEO Conpiracy Theory Bullseye square in the middle. Nonetheless, Google did come out and say that link dropping in blog comments and forums (where they feel they can detect it) will not be tolerated in their search index.

People have to pursue these types of links at their own risk.

And I still say that anyone who contracts for link building needs to tell the client enough about what is going to help the client understand what is happening.




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