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What Happens When Your Main Keyword Is Also A Stop Word?
Posted 29 December 2009 - 01:20 PM
I have optimized the web site of an IT company in Philly. Some of their broader keywords are IT Support Philadelphia, IT Company Philadelphia, and other IT related words.
But if you search for IT Company Philadelphia the sites that come up are not IT companies. They are ballet, theatre, opera, etc.
I figured it was because Google reads IT as the word 'it' which is a stop word...so it's ignoring that part of the keyword.
However, if you search for just IT Company, actual IT companies come up! So Google does know what IT is.
So why would Google get all ignorant as soon as a city is tagged on to the search term.
I guess one work-around would be to optimize only for the more specific aspects of the company's services, but it's frustrating to be an actual IT Company in Philly and be blown off by Google in favour of theatre companies!
Posted 29 December 2009 - 08:49 PM
Why not use the words, plus the abbreviation IT in your pages? You're not text messaging here, get some actual descriptive terms out there and you will have a better chance at being discovered. As you mentioned, Google knows what IT is, perhaps you have too many abbreviations and not enough explanations.
Broaden your keyword base, there are many more terms you could use to describe the business than simply IT.
IT company would be about your most general term. Would people searching for a website such as the one you worked on actually enter IT Company Philadelphia when searching for the services they offer or would they be using more specific terms?
It is not unusual for business owners, salespeople and those working on a website to use technical terminology or abbreviations the potential customer for a site such as theirs would not even consider.
What are some terms that describe what services the company actually offers, what do they do? Those will be the terms people will be more likely to search for, that you should want to show up for.
Also, have you tried Google local, that's a great way to show up where you might not otherwise (depending on how close you are to the center of the city). You're more likely to come up for Philadelphia it company that way but of course you have plenty of competition that has made it there before you.
Posted 30 December 2009 - 12:18 PM
It seems that way Rustybrick...until you bring a city into the equation. Do the same search with a city...it companies phoenix for example
Posted 30 December 2009 - 12:46 PM
That all makes good sense, and to a large degree we have done that. I guess what I'm really trying to achieve is to find a good way to explain to the client why sites that are not relevant for that broad term are getting top positions in Google.
These ballet and theater companies in Philly are not optimized for IT Company Philadelphia, nor do they provide relevant results for searchers, yet they are snagging the number one spot.
He feels that as he is a legitimate Philly IT company with that phrase on his home page, he should be given preference over those companies. And it's hard to disagree with him.
Posted 30 December 2009 - 04:28 PM
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Posted 02 January 2010 - 01:16 AM
Remember it is a combination of on and off page factors that can affect how you rank.
Posted 03 January 2010 - 03:12 PM
Hehe...good point... It can be hard to see the wood for the trees when you're focusing on one elusive twig!
Posted 03 January 2010 - 03:15 PM
Me too Jill...and I agree with the other comments, I have to focus on the great variety of other words I can use. It's just a tempting challenge to get one's mind around the mystery though.
Posted 04 January 2010 - 10:23 AM
Posted 05 January 2010 - 12:20 PM
Randy...always the voice of reason!
Posted 04 February 2010 - 10:12 AM
I'm not an expert on user behaviour, but I immediately thought that ..perhaps the opposite could be true also.
If nothing but irrelevant companies show up, could this not be an excellent opportunity to be the one relevant company sticking out and grabbing the majority of traffic? Especially with a very-well optimized page title that screams at searchers "Hey, I'm the one result right here that offers exactly what youre looking for"?
Considering the v ast majority of people usually click on the #1 spot or the #1-#3 or something..actually even I still do that for some reason!... which means that many times unless you rank #1, you dont get too much of the traffic pie, I was thinking this might be an excellent opportunity to get the CTR of a #1 listing even if you only rank #5 or #6 - if youre the only relevant result sticking out.
I'm thinking the "lazy" searchers would probably go for it, whereas others might simply re-fine their search...and all of this is mostly guesswork...but I'm thinking the fact that there are absolutely no other relevant results might be very positive, not very negative (zero competition).
Of course Im not saying my POV is correct and you 2 are wrong, but I think both could turn out to be true (Maybe somebody has ranked in a similar set of SERPs before, and saw that everybody just refined their search?)
PS: I hope I'm not starting to get known as the contrarian on here, as I seem to disagree in every 2nd post hehe - I truly believe this
EDIT: From a business point of view, I think it all comes down to the potential reward vs. risk/cost, though.....maybe the "gamble" I suggest is simply not worth it, if there are other decent keywords to rank for!
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