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#1 bmatexas

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Posted 16 November 2009 - 03:32 AM

Want to add a forum to my web site. The title of the forum will be a keyword phrase, that will coincide with the same keyword phrase utilized on the main and/or index page.

One, should I just create a directory and name it with this keyword phrase or two, entitle the directory 'forum', then entitle the forum with the keyword phrase.

Wondering, too, if I would do better by creating a sub domain for this project and if so, what would be the logistics as with the above concerns.

If I knew it all, I would be rich and retired. Thanks, Bryce







#2 adibranch

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Posted 16 November 2009 - 06:17 AM

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should I just create a directory and name it with this keyword phrase or two, entitle the directory 'forum', then entitle the forum with the keyword phrase.


yes why not.. it wont make the blindest bit of diffference anyway. Forums are notoriously bad in terms of SEO and you'll be lucky if anything other than the forum homepage page gets indexed anyway smile.gif

Ino ther words dont fret it. Leave your site to attract the traffic and the forum to serve the visitors. If your forums gets found along the way for a term contained in a thread or post.. marvellous.

#3 bmatexas

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Posted 16 November 2009 - 10:43 AM

Thanks for the reply, will do.

QUOTE(adibranch @ Nov 16 2009, 05:17 AM) View Post
yes why not.. it wont make the blindest bit of diffference anyway. Forums are notoriously bad in terms of SEO and you'll be lucky if anything other than the forum homepage page gets indexed anyway smile.gif

Ino ther words dont fret it. Leave your site to attract the traffic and the forum to serve the visitors. If your forums gets found along the way for a term contained in a thread or post.. marvellous.



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Posted 16 November 2009 - 12:20 PM

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Forums are notoriously bad in terms of SEO and you'll be lucky if anything other than the forum homepage page gets indexed anyway


You are surely joking, right?

Forums typically get thousands if not hundreds of thousands of pages indexed. We've got nearly 10,000 forum URLs indexed here and a good portion of our search engine traffic comes into forum pages.

As to the original question, naming it as a directory /forum is usually fine. A subdomain is also fine. It's really more of a business issue as it's all the same to the search engines.

#5 adibranch

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Posted 17 November 2009 - 09:04 AM

this forum as you well know, has got more authority and links to it than most others. But, lets take for example, '[url=http://www.highrankings.com/forum/index.php/topic/833-tips-for-new-seos/]Tips for Newbies[/url]', which you have set up to be promoted on a daily basis smile.gif . I couldnt find this anywhere for the term, or 'tips for seo's', and even with "search engine optimization [url=http://www.highrankings.com/forum/index.php/topic/833-tips-for-new-seos/]Tips for Newbies[/url]" it was down at around 18 in google. despite the low competitive term.

Forum indexing sucks.

Plus, it depends on the forum software. Simple Machines and Vbulletin are generally pretty bad (simply machines doesnt even index past the home page, and VBulletin relies on archiving for most indexable pages).

#6 bmatexas

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Posted 17 November 2009 - 11:54 AM

Hi Jill,

Ok, name the directory 'forum', then the forum would be entitled, as per the keyword phrase.

Hope that my being 61 doesn't show.


Bryce


QUOTE(Jill @ Nov 16 2009, 11:20 AM) View Post
You are surely joking, right?

Forums typically get thousands if not hundreds of thousands of pages indexed. We've got nearly 10,000 forum URLs indexed here and a good portion of our search engine traffic comes into forum pages.

As to the original question, naming it as a directory /forum is usually fine. A subdomain is also fine. It's really more of a business issue as it's all the same to the search engines.



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Posted 17 November 2009 - 12:01 PM

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Forum indexing sucks.


You seem to be confused about the differences between indexing and ranking and are using the terms interchangeably. Why would we want to rank for "Tips for Newbies"? We link to it so that newbies won't keep asking the same questions over and over again. But the content on that page is not optimized for any specific phrases.

But the page it's own, is most certainly indexed. True, it's not optimized to rank for anything, but that's not the fault of the forum software, but more my fault for not bothering to optimize it for anything.

Without any optimization, that particular page has still been found in Google under 48 different keyword phrases in the past month.



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Posted 18 November 2009 - 05:29 AM

agreed, I should have referred to ranking in my first post, but i certainly dont confuse the two, as you well know biggrin.gif I did state 'Forums are notoriously bad in terms of SEO', which the plain fact is, they are. The outputted cource code is appalling.
Because of this, ranking (corrected) is terrible depending on which one you use. Vbulletin isnt brilliant, SMF is appalling, and its difficult to get anything other than the first page indexed with that one. PHPBB is better, but prone to spammers. I'm suprised bots FIND the links, let alone follow them.

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Posted 18 November 2009 - 08:04 AM

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The outputted cource code is appalling.
Because of this, ranking (corrected) is terrible depending on which one you use.


Since the code is of no consequence to search engines as long as they can find and index the actual content of the forum, I disagree with this statement.

And since our analytics show tons of search engine traffic directly to forum pages, the point is moot.

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Posted 18 November 2009 - 08:33 AM

Semantics are one thing, but success speaks for itself.
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QUOTE(Jill @ Nov 18 2009, 07:04 AM) View Post
Since the code is of no consequence to search engines as long as they can find and index the actual content of the forum, I disagree with this statement.

And since our analytics show tons of search engine traffic directly to forum pages, the point is moot.



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Posted 18 November 2009 - 01:58 PM

QUOTE(bmatexas @ Nov 18 2009, 08:33 AM) View Post
Semantics are one thing, but success speaks for itself.
-Colin Powell


And that relates to this thread how, exactly?

#12 adibranch

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Posted 19 November 2009 - 07:32 AM

QUOTE(Jill @ Nov 18 2009, 08:04 AM) View Post
Since the code is of no consequence to search engines as long as they can find and index the actual content of the forum, I disagree with this statement.


i wouldnt expect anything else smile.gif

ps the edit was a sandboxing question, but you know that already.

Edited by adibranch, 19 November 2009 - 07:40 AM.


#13 Jill

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Posted 19 November 2009 - 09:31 AM

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ps the edit was a sandboxing question, but you know that already.


What edit and where's the sandboxing question? I think I've missed the plot here as I have no idea what you're referring to.

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Posted 19 November 2009 - 01:38 PM

We have a lot of high-ranking threads on my company's forums.

They're not usually going to be optimized for money terms, but they still drive a decent amount of sales from keyphrases our main site isn't targeting.

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Posted 19 November 2009 - 03:41 PM

QUOTE(adibranch @ Nov 18 2009, 05:29 AM) View Post
agreed, I should have referred to ranking in my first post, but i certainly dont confuse the two, as you well know biggrin.gif I did state 'Forums are notoriously bad in terms of SEO', which the plain fact is, they are. The outputted cource code is appalling.
Because of this, ranking (corrected) is terrible depending on which one you use. Vbulletin isnt brilliant, SMF is appalling, and its difficult to get anything other than the first page indexed with that one. PHPBB is better, but prone to spammers. I'm suprised bots FIND the links, let alone follow them.


there are thousands of "Boston SEO" footer links on every page of this forum.

highrankings.com ranks #4 for "Boston SEO."

kinda pokes holes in the "forums are notoriously bad in terms of SEO" argument.




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