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Should Title And H1 Tags Be The Same
Posted 28 July 2009 - 03:24 PM
I'm beginning to re-think this process and I may not have made the right choice. I need someone to set me straight on page theme and what it means to you and if it's advisable to make the H1 tag the same as the title tag. If not, how do you determine what your H1 tag should be if you are targeting more than 1 keyword on a page?
I've always kept the search engines in the back of my mind when working on the site but in this instance, I think I may have thought too much about them.
Posted 28 July 2009 - 03:41 PM
Posted 28 July 2009 - 03:57 PM
I feel like a dope b/c I had a strange interpretation of page theme. Granted, these pages are not long enough for any other sub headings but I feel completely lost on this subject. It hit me like a ton of bricks today that I have been doing this wrong for years.
Perhaps I need a new interpretation of page theme, the use of title tags and the use of H1 tags................. ugh
Posted 28 July 2009 - 06:21 PM
"Is it any detriment if the Title Tag and the H1 Tag are absolutely identical".
Posted 28 July 2009 - 08:00 PM
IMHO, unless you have powerful backlinks, on-page optimization is the most important factor in ranking a page.
I try to find a balance that works across-the-board for all search engines. It's a trial and error thing. My suggestion is to experiment with your on-page optimization until you find a strategy that works.
Posted 28 July 2009 - 08:11 PM
I was looking at a site today and noticed the title tag was 4-5 keywords while the headings of the pages were not the same and were 2 words or the main keywords from the title. Reflecting and looking at my site, they are identical 95% of the time.
I know at times i've been guilty of focusing too much on the search engines. After drawing this potential conclusion, I wanted to get others views on creating page theme and how you do it and what H1's should be (keyword rich, just a basic heading, etc.). I feel like I've completely forgotten one of the simple rules of SEO.
One of my next questions would be what piskie has asked as well as providing an example of a title tag with multiple keywords being targeted and what you would use as your H1 tag? This certainly has me baffled... lol
Posted 29 July 2009 - 05:49 AM
Posted 29 July 2009 - 08:19 AM
Posted 29 July 2009 - 08:42 AM
If you are working with WordPress, then you can use a plug-in like the All-in-one-SEO Pack to make them different. I always do so. I always think of the headline ( <h1> ) as being for my human visitors and the Title as being for the search engine algorithms. However since it's the Title that appears on the SERP for a keyword query, you have got to make sure it also will attract the click from the keyword searcher.
Posted 29 July 2009 - 09:07 AM
Jill, I may be limited as the CMS may now be included to use the same H1 as the title tag. I will have to probe deeper into it.
Bwel, I don't believe this is hurting me in any way but there is no sure way to tell unless I run a few tests. I've been wanting to rank better for a certain product and I think that will be my first test (again, If I'm able to change the two tags to be different). I also have a wordpress blog and use the same plugin but have used the same title and H1 tag in all of the posts.
On the contrary, I have noticed on one of the websites I frequent fairly often they practice the same thing. Their titles (with the exeption of their homepage) match their H1 tags and they rank well for some competitive terms.
I am now confused with the use of the H1 tag and its purpose in terms of SEO. If I had a page & my title was "Shiny Blue Widgets in El Paso," what would you put in the H1 tag? I understand its the heading about what a user is supposed to read but I would like to see the other side of things if I was to not use the same title and H1 tags.
Thanks for the continued help.
Posted 29 July 2009 - 11:23 AM
Some will disagree, but in my opinion, it doesn't have a purpose in SEO. Although it might have a purpose in Google news search (someone told me that, I don't know from my own experience about that one.)
Posted 29 July 2009 - 02:27 PM
Just to clarify, Jill, my understanding of your view on this issue is that headings (larger or bolder text that introduces a page or a section of a page) matter, but you don't feel that it helps any more to have them in a heading tag than it does to do something else in the code to set them apart from the rest of the page. Is that accurate?
Posted 29 July 2009 - 05:27 PM
IMHO, an SEO "theme" is a handshake between the title, description, text, links, images.
Posted 29 July 2009 - 06:16 PM
Yeah, kind of, but I'm not even sure about that. I think headings and headlines are good for users though.
Posted 29 July 2009 - 06:46 PM
Ok... as for your interpretation, heading do not fit into that handshake?
Jill, this is an interesting stance. I know heading tags are not often discussed but I always thought it was viewed as an essential piece to on page optimization. I can see the benefits for people but maybe I've been putting way too much emphasis on heading tags thinking they were so important to have.
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