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Nice To See Google Back On Track!
Posted 25 February 2004 - 05:54 AM
Quality of links around us is higher. I also note we're higher under more generic terms so the concept side of google seems to be helping things.
Was that really 3 months of sitting on my hands?
Posted 25 February 2004 - 06:22 AM
Our main competitor is still ahead of us but they have a pretty good site, I have to admit it! So I shall retreat back to my drawing board and keep beavering away on our site and get it good enough to beat em!
Posted 25 February 2004 - 06:23 AM
currently the possition of sites seems to shift a bit each day but it is the same sites that are in the top 20 pretty much constantly. interestingly enough, the number 1 slot seems to have remained so since gladys - and i can't for the life of me work our why. google claims it has no links, it doesn' t have much text and it does even have proper metas. weird
Posted 25 February 2004 - 08:58 AM
I have however in this last week noticed some fluctuations again and am starting to settle in at a slight panic as I see some terms dropping a few placed downwards.....
There cant already by a new dance, could there ?
Posted 25 February 2004 - 09:05 AM
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Posted 25 February 2004 - 03:18 PM
Still anxiously waiting for a Google turnaround. (at least for our sites)
The good news is our rankings are way up on Yahoo thanks to the switch.
Posted 25 February 2004 - 03:47 PM
I changed nothing, as I a couple of low-PR BBS sites referencing mine had been promoted to top-10, and Adwords made up for 90% of the missing Google results.
Also, Inkhoo referrals increased, and my traffic was actually up slightly overall.
(Gee, do you suppose users were starting to actually desert G en masse? I guess we discussed that one to death in another thread...)
In any case, after Jason, my sites are back up taking a few of the top-10 results again, so I'm a happy boy.
In my view, it would be very difficult for an algorithm to distinguish between an article about something (where it is impossible not to use the relevant descriptive term repeatedly), and keyword packing, and I think that G proved this with the Florida update.
I guess it takes a whole committee of PhD's to notice these things, but fortunately, their adult supervision seems to have controlled those new hires with an irresistable urge to justify their jobs, and G is again back to being useful...
Edited by rzehr, 25 February 2004 - 05:06 PM.
Posted 25 February 2004 - 06:35 PM
When everyone else got wiped out after Florida, I didn't notice much of a change. I attributed this to the fact that my sites are very wide with lots of pages that target very non-competitive terms. This in part due to the discussion that was happening at the time concerning "money" terms being affected by the Hilltop algo. Well...the good times did not last, and about 2 weeks after Florida, my traffic began to slide.
So here is the theory.....maybe Hilltop works its way down the popular term scale, and it finally getting to my terms. If it is a process that must be applied to each term (maybe as it is searched the first time) then it would make sense that it would hit popular terms first, and then the less popular terms over time.
Here is the wishful part....maybe you all have recovered, because the application is extreme at first, and then "loosens" over time. If that is the case, maybe the low traffic terms that I target will loosen too.
Or maybe I will just have to get another job.
Posted 25 February 2004 - 06:42 PM
Posted 25 February 2004 - 06:44 PM
I checked 10 sites yesterday, some of clients and some of mine, and almost all took a hit when Yahoo dropped Google. The decrease ranged from 30%-60%, and most noticeable on sites that were NOT submitted(fairly new) or not widely submitted. All sites were optimized pretty well, with non-targeted general optimization.
The one site that did not suffer overall traffic loss DID have less Yahoo traffic, but not enough to hurt it. This site also has about 38 pages listed in Yahoo. No, we never paid a dime to Yahoo, but we did submit over 40 pages to AltaVista....
I have since gone back and made sure clients have a good number of pages in AV, but I've been doing some of that since day 1.
Edited by Christian_SEO, 25 February 2004 - 07:18 PM.
Posted 25 February 2004 - 07:21 PM
Good old Google. I still tell my prospective clients that they are silly for putting all their eggs in the one basket.
Posted 25 February 2004 - 10:16 PM
This had to be a very difficult period for Google. I am sure what they had in mind with Florida had to deal with getting rid of spam but too many honest sites got booted in the process. When people started to scream, I was one of them, I am sure they moved fairly slow to make the corrections that they did. Therefore it took three months.
I was really shocked when Jill said some negative things about Google and the Florida code change in her newsletter. That's was really a bellwether for me, she is one of the most positive people in this industry and is very careful about the use of criticism.
But her point about waiting things out was correct, the calmer mind prevailed.
Posted 25 February 2004 - 10:25 PM
We just never saw it with Google before, and it was new to many people.
The thing is, when a search engine is obviously showing junk sites (not just that they're not listing yours, but really and truly showing irrelevant trash), there really is nothing you can do but wait it out.
Now that they're showing much better stuff, if your site is still not back, it might be time to re-assess. And even now, I don't think they're quite done, so you might still want to give it a few more weeks.
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