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#1 1dmf

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Posted 02 April 2009 - 11:11 AM

Hi,

Ok I know it's something I should be doing myself, but I don't have the time to devote to proper link building campaigns , especially considering all the websites I webmaster , not just @ work but for home , family and friends.

So I thought perhaps I could outsource some of the SEO tasks, specifically link building.

I take it this is not considerd the same as buying links or is it?

Also where do I start, so many SEO companies, how do you know the blackhat.gif from the whitehat.gif , should I be looking for specialist link building services or general SEO, and am I likely to get burned?

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Posted 02 April 2009 - 12:15 PM

There's no way to tell other than to gauge reputation by collecting references and/or trying someone out and seeing the effects of their work.

Are you likely to get burned? Yes you are. Most likely by someone who sells you a package of XX one-way links that are really nothing but crappy directory links. They'll do that even if you explicitly forbid directory links btw.

When you find a good link builder who isn't too expensive or too busy to take on your projects you should hang onto them like they've worth their weight in gold. Because they are!

#3 1dmf

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Posted 02 April 2009 - 01:12 PM

that's what I was worried about. what joy the SEO world brings to my measly little life.

mf_prop.gif right on with the SEO Gold radar hat!... How will I know when it's working dntknw.gif

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Posted 02 April 2009 - 07:54 PM

QUOTE(Randy @ Apr 2 2009, 12:15 PM) View Post
There's no way to tell other than to gauge reputation by collecting references and/or trying someone out and seeing the effects of their work.

Are you likely to get burned? Yes you are. Most likely by someone who sells you a package of XX one-way links that are really nothing but crappy directory links. They'll do that even if you explicitly forbid directory links btw.

When you find a good link builder who isn't too expensive or too busy to take on your projects you should hang onto them like they've worth their weight in gold. Because they are!


But, how then are you to get links?
If not through directory, mini sites, or through reciprocal link exchange how do you get links without answering "build good content and the links will come"

Most webmasters who are aware of SEO value, know the value of a link, so they won't link to you unless you give them a link back.

Instead of trying to work so hard for a few one way links, I prefer to look for some good reciprocal links from sites with real value/content whose link directory actually show up on G.

Really, the only ways to get one way links is to build your mini site network of 100 sites or so, or buy links, even article writing, I think, is time wasting as most people who use your articles delete the author footer, and your link is gone. So, instead of wasting time writing again, use it to find valuable link exchanges. Or,

Jump from SEO to SEO company who own mini networks (most do), and negotiate a one time pay/price per link you get, you only pay for what you like, not G sees. If you don't like a specific site from which you are getting a link, they can remove it as it is their site, then go to the next SEO company and do the same. Costly, and time consuming, but effective as long as they keep the site running. If they decide to stop paying for the site's domain or hosting, you lose money.

There are thousands of articles about link building, and none of them mention the simple reality that most webmasters want a link if you want a link from them. Most talk about creating good content or link bating, but prefer to avoid telling a simple truth which is use reciprocal links if you want to build links fast, and of course, you will get the poster who says "reciprocals don't work", "reciprocals are a waste of time", "reciprocals will get you banned", and neither are true. Reciprocals do work, maybe they don't have the same value of a one way link, and I say maybe because only G knows, but still reciprocals do work, and you don't get banned unless you like playing ridiculous and add 10,000 links in a single page which I did once, btw, and did not get banned, but the site is gone now so, no way to tell if these days, it would still rank in GYM.

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Posted 03 April 2009 - 06:39 AM

Yup, I have many of the same views!

And as this is a non-profit , hobby site, I most certainly cannot afford to loose money promoting it!

I guess the old addage is still true, "If you want something doing properly... do it yourself!"

My time in essence costs me nothing, so I guess the only way I will build IBL's is to run my own link campaign, looking for sites I would like links from and making the usual begging requests or recipricol offering. What else is there?

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Posted 03 April 2009 - 10:40 PM

QUOTE(1dmf @ Apr 3 2009, 06:39 AM) View Post
Yup, I have many of the same views!

And as this is a non-profit , hobby site, I most certainly cannot afford to loose money promoting it!


There are some directories that offer free listings for non-profit. Type in non-profit free listing directories or something along that line.


#7 TheMediaAnnexes

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Posted 29 July 2009 - 11:58 PM

Sounds like an impressive link building discussion is carrying on here. Where to buy and cell links more efficiently?



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Posted 30 July 2009 - 02:15 AM

You don't need to buy or sell links in order to build up your link profile. There are a LOT of good SEO articles out there (some on great blogs, some on mediocre blogs, even a few on generally bad blogs) which list ways to build links without buying, trading, or dropping them.

We each look at things differently, and we all create for ourselves barriers to success because we think things should be done a certain way. Once you get past those barriers by looking at what other people have done successfully, the creative link building process becomes less daunting.

I suggest that anyone stuck for links try a simple exercise:

1) Make a list of ways to obtain a one-way link from other sites
2) Cross off the list any method that requires that you compensate the linker, that you trade links, or that you use blog comments or forum signatures to obtain the links
3) Cross off the list any method that is invasive, violates intellectual property rights, or is otherwise invasive or unethical
4) Cross off the list any method that requires filling out forms and submitting link requests to directories and resource lists
5) Cross off the list any method that requires setting up accounts like social media profiles, forum profiles, etc.

If your list comes up empty because you crossed everything off of it, then you know what NOT to do. Use that list of things NOT to do as a quality control check list that you apply to every link building article you can find.

I think if you view enough articles you'll find some real gems of ideas out there -- where people load up on crappy link building ideas but then toss in one or two really useful ideas.

When you have compiled a list of 10-20 really good link building ideas, DON'T SHARE IT -- USE IT. You can share later after you know how well it works.

The point of the exercise is to create a resource for yourself that helps you overcome those link doldrums. It may not work for every site, every situation but if you can create one such list of link building ideas you can create a hundred.

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Posted 31 July 2009 - 03:57 PM

Find some great ideas at The Link Spiel. Every time I read Debra's blog, I get a great idea to try out when it comes to building links.

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Posted 31 August 2009 - 10:45 PM

QUOTE(Scottie @ Jul 31 2009, 04:57 PM) View Post
Find some great ideas at The Link Spiel. Every time I read Debra's blog, I get a great idea to try out when it comes to building links.


Thanks for the link! I think it will be very useful

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Posted 14 April 2010 - 08:28 AM

QUOTE(cloud420 @ Aug 31 2009, 11:45 PM) View Post
Thanks for the link! I think it will be very useful


A marketing author that I really respect (and who runs a well-known SEO company) recently published an SEO checklist. Under the link-building section - he mentioned [company removed].

That site looks ultra-spammy, but if you listen to the video - the creators clearly understand the dilemma webmasters face in building one-way links from reputable websites and the narrator's tone is almost humorous. I have little experience in link-building campaigns other than signing up for high PR free directory listings - that's all I know. But it's become clear that doing this alone will not garner enough links to compete in certain niche markets in which I operate sites.

Is a services like [removed] considered blackhat? Is that frowned upon? It's confusing to me, because again - the author that recommended it is extremely respected and produces exceptional content almost every day.

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Posted 14 April 2010 - 09:43 AM

Interesting thread...

One thing puzzles me, what do you do with all these links when you get them?

Do you guys use software to look after them?

Ive got links over the 10 years i have been online but I have no idea if the sites linking to me still exist, and if they are, are they still linking to me!

I dont worry about it but I think its time I got automated. I dont mean software that looks for links, just organises them better, my end.

Any thoughts?

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Posted 14 April 2010 - 11:04 AM

At the end of the day what could your automation tell you, other than that some sites or links have disappeared? It's not like knowing is going to drastically change what you do.

The bottom line is you're never really done building links. Ever. I've got sites that are many years old now and still once or twice per year I'm doing some sort of maintenance link building for them. So even if I'm losing some of those old links, and I'm 100% positive I am, I'm always adding some new links to the mix.

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Posted 14 April 2010 - 06:08 PM

Many of the sites that linked to my content 10 years ago no longer exist. There is nothing I can do about that. Their operators made decisions that did not include continuing to support my efforts on the Web. That's life.




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