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Posted 24 February 2009 - 01:44 PM
When researching manual submissions I came across this forum and have read many negative opinions on the subject here, saying it isn't worth it and doesn't work as well anymore. I was hoping to offer manual subscription as a service to small online businesses for a small charge, however I'm starting to wonder if it is worth my time promoting my service if no one wants it?? I'm currently working as a nanny in a foreign country and figured this would be a great way to earn a bit extra money online whilst the girls are at school as I have loads of spare time and I'd heard mainly possitive things until now.
Just wondered what your opinions were?
Thank you in advance,
Posted 24 February 2009 - 04:28 PM
Posted 03 March 2009 - 11:20 AM
Posted 03 March 2009 - 12:00 PM
I beg to differ that they need them.
Posted 04 March 2009 - 09:27 AM
Is your point that they are no longer valued by the search engines?
Posted 04 March 2009 - 10:45 AM
The issue is in how one defines Value. Do some directories still provide value in the search engines eyes? Yes. Smaller directories that are laser focused on specific market niches and hand-edited still contain value, both with the search engines with real people who use them.
On the flip side of the coin many, many general usage directories pass very little if any linking value. For either the search engines or for real users.
At one time in years past one could rely pretty heavily on directory submission and get their site ranking pretty well if they had decent on page optimization. Not top ranked certainly, but usually in the top 2 or 3 pages in many markets. That's simply not the case anymore in the vast majority of markets. Nowadays it takes a lot more than directory links to get a site off to a good start.
Perhaps this is because most markets are simply more competitive these days. Perhaps it's because the search engines have in fact devalued the links of so many general purpose directories. They why doesn't matter as much as the fact that it takes considerably more than just links from directory submissions if you want your site to rank well.
Posted 04 March 2009 - 12:27 PM
No. My point is that you can optimize a site perfectly well and not be listed in any directories.
Posted 15 March 2009 - 11:23 AM
Hi Jill, I understand your point that you may not need directory submissions to get rankings but what do you think about the theory that directory submissions help to get your website indexed?
Posted 15 March 2009 - 12:03 PM
Posted 16 March 2009 - 10:23 AM
First of all, welcome from a new poster!
However i thought i would have my 2 pennies worth.
Clearly you can optimise a website without needing directory submissions, and clearly you can get great rankings without needing directory submissions, i would even go as far as saying that directory submission will not make much of a difference in the SERPs at all.
That saying, there are definitely times and markets when directory submissions should not be overlooked. Sometimes, particularly as a brand new site, you simply need to get some quantity, rather than quality of links behind you, and the easiest way to do that is directory submissions. And to bring this back to Emma, directory submissions are tedious and very time consuming, particularly when there isn't going to be a massive benefit. Therefore there is always going to be a market for companies looking to outsource this service, leaving their link building experts to create more 'creative' links.
If your prices are competitive, and your service is ethical and transparent, then people will always want to outsource to you!
Hope this helps!
Neil M Hancock
Posted 23 April 2009 - 11:07 PM
I've had a few brand new sites to work with recently - so new they had not yet been indexed by Google.
I just linked to them from my 'Clients' page and all of them were indexed within a few days to a couple of weeks. Much quicker than bothering with directories.
Posted 24 April 2009 - 07:08 AM
Posted 24 April 2009 - 07:52 AM
Software automation is what you get. It will never be perfect because it will always require an update. Especially directory submission softwares.
Posted 17 May 2009 - 10:19 AM
Posted 17 May 2009 - 10:54 AM
I'm surprised you feel that article distribution and/or forum signatures would be better than directories.
I would say that they all pretty much suck.
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