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Posted 19 February 2004 - 07:03 AM
I LOVE Opera but I have seen some feedback from disgruntled webmasters about the fact that Opera is highjacking potential AdSense revenue by showing the same ads as they do on the page.
I know that the percentage of Opera users on my sites is VERY small but if they ever became a major player, I would probably also have a problem with it especially if I saw a decrease in AdSense revenue.
Posted 19 February 2004 - 07:23 AM
You might want to work out exactly how Adsense knew to display those ads
a) if Jill is an Adsense customer
b) if Jill is not an Adsense customer
Posted 19 February 2004 - 08:05 AM
Also, users of the free version of Opera can go into their preferences and choose between AdSense and banner ads, and I think the banners are all "Buy Opera and get rid of these ads".
And it's not very nice of them to hijack my ad revenues by displaying often the same ads I am, but higher up. I wonder if there's any data about whether those ads get clicked more than the ones on the page.
Posted 19 February 2004 - 08:51 AM
Following through the logic in the rest of your post, it seems you do mind ads appearing in the Opera pane:
I don't really mind seeing the ads
I'm not happy about G spidering non-AdSense sites in order to serve up the ads.
it's not very nice of them to hijack my ad revenues by displaying often the same ads I am, but higher up.
In addition, consider the implications of spidering Adsense customers' sites in order to serve up the ads in the Opera pane, rather than on those sites themselves.
It's true you can ban the bot using robots.txt (if you're not an Adsense customer, that is!). But this is a bot which, IMO, should not adopt the "opt-in-by-default" model assumed by robots.txt. Opt-in-by-default is only ethical if it in some way benefits the Web as a whole and/or the owner of the Web site - I don't see that the Adsense bot does that.
Posted 19 February 2004 - 09:15 AM
Posted 19 February 2004 - 09:24 AM
From its inception, Google has focused on providing the best user experience possible.[/quote]This is one example where that maxim does not hold true. You can't simply suck a site's bandwidth in order to serve ads over that site that benefit you and not the creators of the site, even if those ads do focus on the user.
Posted 19 February 2004 - 05:38 PM
You can't simply suck a site's bandwidth in order to serve ads over that site that benefit you and not the creators of the site, even if those ads do focus on the user.
100% agree!!! IMHO, if you don't have AdSense on your site, blocking the Media-partners bot is a great idea.
It is aweful to think that, as Alan rightly points out, you:
1) Produce content
2) Allow free downloading of the content
3) Two third parties conspire to serve ads based on your content and give you 0%, while sending out robots specifically to serve ads based on yoiur site.
Imagine Sony selling TVs that show ads other than the stations? How well would that go down?? I love Opera, and have a licence, but I don't think, on this occasion, either they or Google got it right!!!
Posted 19 February 2004 - 06:13 PM
Those guys don't seem to be putting much thought into what's in it for the Webmaster who doesn't run AdSense - even Webmasters who have no ads on their sites at all.
Here's an interesting thread on the Opera site about this:
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