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New Site And Domain Age Question


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#1 doogie88

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Posted 08 July 2008 - 01:41 PM

I'm looking at building a new site in my niche similar to my current site which provides information but bigger and better. Will rankings suffer because it's new?
Would it be better to try and make my current site bigger and better?
I kinda wanted to go with a new approach with the new site though.

#2 maleman

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Posted 08 July 2008 - 02:27 PM

QUOTE(doogie88 @ Jul 8 2008, 03:41 PM) View Post
Would it be better to try and make my current site bigger and better?

My opinion is yes it would be better and yes a new domain will suffer for a while.

I would shoot for overhauling the old site. whitehat.gif

#3 Jill

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Posted 08 July 2008 - 04:51 PM

I'd use the old site and make it better.

Why do you want a new site?

#4 Ladybug

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Posted 08 July 2008 - 05:46 PM

You should probably overhaul. You don't want duplicate or similair sites.

#5 doogie88

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Posted 08 July 2008 - 07:51 PM

I don't really want to change the old one up too much. I try and sell a membership to the old one, but want to promote the forum on the new one. Kinda want a fresh new site with a fresh start, with some new ideas, but I don't want it to hurt me ranking wise too much. Plus have some strategies for quality links that would really only work with a new site.


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Posted 09 July 2008 - 02:16 AM

QUOTE(doogie88 @ Jul 9 2008, 05:51 AM) View Post
I don't really want to change the old one up too much. I try and sell a membership to the old one, but want to promote the forum on the new one. Kinda want a fresh new site with a fresh start, with some new ideas, but I don't want it to hurt me ranking wise too much. Plus have some strategies for quality links that would really only work with a new site.


If it's something like your new site won't be commercial, be informative and your competitors won't mind linking to the new site, then it may seem ok.

IMO, this would be good in two cases:
1) If your old site already ranks in top 10 and you are getting fresh links regularly
2) If your old site DOES NOT rank well and you don't think you can beat your competitors unless you have a new, non-commercial site.

But I am not an expert so don't count on me.

#7 doogie88

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Posted 09 July 2008 - 10:28 AM

Yeah that's kinda the idea. Won't really be commericial. The old one has a forum, but the main part is promoting the subscription, so not many people go to the forum. While the new one would promote the forum and keep return visitors.
And yeah there are some competitor sites that don't care to link, and some other sites that dont' care to link because it's a commercial site while theirs is more so non commercial, just advertising.

#8 Jill

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Posted 09 July 2008 - 04:46 PM

You can certainly do it with a new domain, but just realize that it will most likely take longer to gain any search engine traction than if you were using your old domain.

That said, if you're in it for the long haul, that time shouldn't matter a whole heck of a lot.

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Posted 09 July 2008 - 06:00 PM

QUOTE(Jill @ Jul 9 2008, 04:46 PM) View Post
You can certainly do it with a new domain, but just realize that it will most likely take longer to gain any search engine traction than if you were using your old domain.

That said, if you're in it for the long haul, that time shouldn't matter a whole heck of a lot.


Thanks. Yeah it's going to be a long time thing.

#10 tomer1

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Posted 15 July 2008 - 08:14 PM

definitely yes!

google can recognize domain age like google recognize links age

its better to buying old domain

#11 hoainam

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Posted 17 July 2008 - 07:33 PM

domain age is a criterion of Google's PageRank, so use the old site and make it better.


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Posted 18 July 2008 - 06:38 AM

QUOTE(doogie88 @ Jul 9 2008, 12:11 AM) View Post
I'm looking at building a new site in my niche similar to my current site which provides information but bigger and better. Will rankings suffer because it's new?
Would it be better to try and make my current site bigger and better?
I kinda wanted to go with a new approach with the new site though.


I agree with those who have suggested you to overhaul your existing site.

#13 Randy

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Posted 18 July 2008 - 07:44 AM

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domain age is a criterion of Google's PageRank, so use the old site and make it better.


Hunh? Where in the world did you come up with this conclusion?

PageRank has to do with links and the quality of these links. There may be some advantage to having links that have been there for ages, but this has no direct correlation to the age of the domain.

Can an older domain be an advantage? Yes. For several loosely connected reasons. But not because of the reason you stated.

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Posted 14 January 2009 - 12:18 PM

Hi Guys,

I got a question that has really being bugging me.

Over a year ago my client asked me to register a domain i'll call "mybusinessname.com" about 6 months ago, the same client asked me to register a new domain name "mynewbusinessname.com".

I did this, also re-optimized the entire website and moved it to the new domain name's hosting plan (which is on the same server as the original). I simply pointed the old domain mybusinessname.com to mynewbusinessname.com where the new site resides.

I then submitted the new url to google, gave it a sitemap via webmaster tools.

Search's are good, but the site/domain appears in google below the description value, as mybusinessname.com instead of the new domain name where the site sits mynewbusinessname.com.

I left it for a while, thinking google needed to re-index, but its been well over 6months and it still show up on the old domain name...

Any help on this matter is really appreciated.

Unreal

#15 torka

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Posted 15 January 2009 - 02:35 PM

When you say you "pointed" the old domain to the new one, what exactly does that mean?

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