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[stedar59]

Hi Folks,

Sorry for the noobish post here, but I am new to SEO so I have questions coming out of the ying yang.

For my sites, I outsource to a certain company in India. I pay $10us and they submit to 100 search engine friendly, niched directories, by hand. They submit to about 20-30 in a day, and I get emails from all 100 saying the link has been submitted and what the keywords/title/description they submitted as. I then get emails to either verify the submission, or whether or not the link was accepted. They guarantee 40 accepted links.

My questions are:

1) I have been indexed in Google thus far. And I am not even ranked. Shall I just be patient and give it time to get my ranking up?

2) I did not submit to the search engines themselves. Is this neccessary?

3) I submitted to DMOZ by hand, are there a few other (4-5) that I should do myself that are important?

4) I plan on adding a new page to the site every week. Do I have to resubmit that particular page?

Am I doing things right? I am trying to get natural rankings, and I was told that blogging/pinging/press releases/articles are not neccessaryily the best to get those natural rankings.

Thanks in advance for your help...

Darren

[qwerty]

For my sites, I outsource to a certain company in India. I pay $10us and they submit to 100 search engine friendly, niched directories, by hand. They submit to about 20-30 in a day, and I get emails from all 100 saying the link has been submitted and what the keywords/title/description they submitted as. I then get emails to either verify the submission, or whether or not the link was accepted. They guarantee 40 accepted links.

I doubt that's going to do you any good.

1) I have been indexed in Google thus far. And I am not even ranked. Shall I just be patient and give it time to get my ranking up?

Yes. There's really no way to rush it, but getting valuable, authoritative links would help. The directories you refer to above aren't likely to accomplish that.

2) I did not submit to the search engines themselves. Is this neccessary?

No, they should be able to find you, but the three major engines do offer you the opportunity to submit a site, claim it, upload an XML sitemap, and keep track of various pieces of information about it. If you're going to submit, that would be the place to do it.

3) I submitted to DMOZ by hand, are there a few other (4-5) that I should do myself that are important?

Look for niche directories rather than general ones. There are a few other general directories that are worth submitting to, but they're not free (and neither are the decent niche directories).

4) I plan on adding a new page to the site every week. Do I have to resubmit that particular page?

If you use the XML sitemap, it will serve to let the engines know about your new pages, but the important thing from a long-term perspective is just making sure you provide a path for the search engines' spiders to find all of your pages.

[Jill]

1) I have been indexed in Google thus far. And I am not even ranked. Shall I just be patient and give it time to get my ranking up?

What you've seen is that you wasted money on that submission service. It will have zero effect ever on your rankings. At least in terms of it having any sort of positive effect.

[thinkfast]

What you've seen is that you wasted money on that submission service. It will have zero effect ever on your rankings. At least in terms of it having any sort of positive effect.

Zero effect ?

I dont think so because if you optimize your submission according to keywords then you can get also quality backlinks and traffics too from directories and it will be give you positive effects sure.

Hi stedar,

Only directory submission is not effective for your pr, coz you have to update also your site regular and have to find more way of traffics and backlinks like article submission, blog submission or forum.

Before Directory submission check personally your titles and descriptions because there are lots of directories rules and regulation to approve your site.

Generally most of directory reject your site due to keyword stuffing in title and description, so optimize your submission carefully.

and get good results.

Thanks

[Randy]

It would have to be a pretty special directory to actually send traffic thinkfast. With very, very few exceptions I would have to agree that there's going to be basically zero positive effect by doing directory submissions. Heck, I can count the amount of traffic all of my sites get from the typical directories out there on one hand!

[Jill]

Zero effect ?

I dont think so because if you optimize your submission according to keywords then you can get also quality backlinks and traffics too from directories and it will be give you positive effects sure.

Quality backlinks? From a directory submission?

I don't think so.

[thinkfast]

Then please let me know that what is the cheap and best way of quality backlinks.

Because now a days i generally saw that if you are going to exchange your link with related site then your exchanger site include a pages with related keywords and put all related links there , seems like directories.

Means, we have to buy links only for quality backlinks?

Kindly suggest me your tips will be beneficial for my service.

Thanks

[torka]

To save me from repeating myself unnecessarily, refer to this post for my take on "cheap" link building techniques.

The answer hasn't changed from the last time you asked the question in the thread I just referenced. To build quality links without spending much money takes considerable time and effort.

It is not a few hours submitting your site to free directories, or even plunking down a few dollars for cheap paid directories. It doesn't put all its eggs in one basket (i.e. just directory submissions, only blog comments, nothing but article submissions, etc.). It is not easy.

It requires time-consuming research to identify a variety of potential link providers and partners. It requires you to put a lot more thought and energy into your requests than just firing off a canned "link to me and I'll link to you" email. It may require repeated follow up or even personal relationship-building with other website owners. It definitely requires you to develop a significant amount of content that is link-worthy in the first place.

Link building professionals can probably get you more and better links faster than you can on your own, but the really good ones aren't cheap (because their specialized, high-quality services are in high demand), and the really cheap ones are almost certainly not very good (because at the prices they charge, they can't afford to do the amount and depth of work really good link building requires).

So if you're constrained to techniques that don't cost much money, and you want good results, be prepared to spend a reasonably long time learning creative link-building techniques. You may wish to begin your education with our own Debra Mastaler's Link Spiel blog.

My further (adjusted for inflation, less taxes and applicable insurance, tags and title fees)

--Torka