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[McFox]

Is everyone ready for the next big Google shake-up? It should begin within the next 10 days or so.

How do I know?
If you look at the DMOZ listings Google is using at the moment you will note they were last updated 15th Jan 2004. However, I know that DMOZ has more current listings available and they are being used by other engines.

I know this because I submitted a request for an alteration to a DMOZ listing and this was implemented very quickly (thanks editor). Very soon after submitting my request, my web logs gave a referring site which was using the more current DMOZ listing.

This tells me that while DMOZ has been updated and is available, Google has not yet implemented them but has implemented the 'Gladys' (Austin) update. Using 15th Jan as a rough guide to when Google will implement the new DMOZ listings, I expect another big shake to begin very soon.

Ready?

McFox aka 'McNostradamus'

[cbp]

???? Google have not updated their Web Directory from DMOZ since early November.

[wholland]

I added my site to DMOZ in mid November and it still has not been updated in to Googles Directory.

[OldWelshGuy]

There was a 5 month gap between google updating the RDF data from DMOZ last time (mid Nov) DMOZ makes a new Dump available weekly I believe.

[Grumpus]

Many "DMOZ listings" sites get up-to-the-minute updates of the directory. It's the directory search that doesn't get updated right away (even on DMOZ).

G.

[Randy]

Don't feel too bad Wholland. I have one site that has been in DMOZ since last summer that still doesn't appear in the Google Directory. I've given up trying to explain that one.

I also know of another site (competitors) that got totally dropped from DMOZ around Sept because the listing was advertising Free this and Free that, when in fact nothing was free at all. It's still in the Google Directory. No I didn't report 'em, but evidently somebody did. It had been that way for a couple of years. Another one I gave up trying to figure out.

Other than to wonder if the big G really updates their directory when they indicate they do.

[mcanerin]

I'd double check that, if I were you.

I was all annoyed that I was in DMOZ but not in the Google directory, but I was wrong.

If you go to DMOZ and type in mcanerin, there is my site and nothing else.

Now go to Google directory and type in mcanerin and the only thing that will show up is the Sleep Apnea site (I did it and have a link saying so in the footer)

But here is the site in the Google Directory:

http://directory.goo...onomy/Internet/

In the exact same place as in DMOZ.

So: When you type in mcanerin in the DMOZ directory search engine, you get the mcanerin site, and don't get a minor mention on a sleep apnea site.

When you you do the same thing in the Google directory search engine, with the EXACT SAME INFO AND DIRECTORY STRUCTURE, you don't find the mcanerin site but DO get a result from a non-profit (ie authority) site.

Even more interesting: in the Google directory, you can go to the link above and see my site there, plain as day. Now do a search *only in that directory* and the result will be : "Your search - mcanerin - did not match any documents." Wierd.

Are they using the same search engine? Can you use this to mess around with trying to figure out how the Google search operates? Maybe. Interesting though.

Ian

[Jocelyn]

Is everyone ready for the next big Google shake-up?
How do I know?

An easier way is to look at your logs and make a patern from the deepcrawls.
Find a deep file that is basically out of reach from freshcrawl and monitor it.
Doing so, you get about (depending you're at the beginning or end of the process) :

... Dec-05, Dec-23, Jan-09, Jan-23 and Feb-05

Hope this helps !

[Scottie]

Welcome Jocelyn!

[Randy]

I've looked high and low Ian, this one site just isn't in the Google Directory. Doesn't display the directory category in the main search either, which was my first indication.

Frankly, I've ceased to worry about it. Google does recognize all of the backlinks that come from a DMOZ listing and that's enough for me. I'm sure it'll get sorted sooner or later.