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Posted 04 March 2004 - 08:14 PM
In the days when I ranked well for search engine optimisation (before they started intermixing it with the "z" version). I sometimes would rank #1 on .com - but never on .co.uk for UK searches where I would have thought it would have been easier. The highest I could get was #3 - yet I would be #1 if I searched on worldwide searches on the .co.uk Google.
Reason? After testing on other searches, I put it down to having the .co.uk in the US.
However, this was a pretty miniscule penalty and would only show up in highly competitive areas.
Posted 04 March 2004 - 11:47 PM
I say it's in the USA dammit! hehe j/k
If Digital Point say the server is in the USA, and your hosting company say it is in the UK, I know which one I would believe over the tother.
My website locator tool goes right to the source of the IP address netblock owner (hosting companies don't always own their own IP addresses). An easy to use tool to check where the IP address of any site is registered (not only country but address, etc.) is the one at Net Craft:
Change the host in the URL to be whatever address you want to check. On the right side, you will see the netblock owner, which you can click on to get the details.
Posted 05 March 2004 - 06:02 AM
Small differences I can cope with. I don't mind losing the odd place to my competitors as long as I'm on the same page .... well, first page.
Right now I'm still struggling to recover from Gladys. (Florida was good for me, but Gladys really screwed me), so it's the big differences I'm concerned with!
Posted 05 March 2004 - 06:08 AM
If your target market is international, then a .com is fine, but international clients would normally be interested in your actual physical location.
Posted 05 March 2004 - 10:22 AM
It seems that some people think there is slight penalisation within Google UK if the hosting server is outside of the UK but others think there is only slight penalisation if you are looking at results through MSN and it is a site with a non-uk domain.
Posted 05 March 2004 - 11:00 AM
Posted 05 March 2004 - 05:27 PM
AFAIK our virtual server is in Manchester but checking the digital point says the US.
I also checked 2 sites on a server I know is physically based here in the NorthEast of England but both come up as being in the US.
Posted 05 March 2004 - 07:57 PM
There is no way to track the TRUE physical location of any IP address, because IP addresses are virtual and can be put anywhere via a router/gateway. So you are only able to detect as far as the registered owner of the IP address. So your servers may be physically in the UK, but the IP addresses that those servers use are registered to the US.
Posted 05 March 2004 - 10:55 PM
Plus, I'm 99% sure that EV1/Rackshack doesn't have any servers physically located outside of Texas.
Posted 06 March 2004 - 02:37 AM
But what Geordie seems to be saying is that it is irrelevent where the server is based, it goes on where the country that the IP that is registered to. So, Server could be UK based, but if the registered owner of the IP address is in the US then that is the country of residence as far as these tools are concerned.
Am I understanding this right?
Posted 06 March 2004 - 03:39 AM
Posted 06 March 2004 - 11:29 AM
Posted 07 March 2004 - 05:10 AM
When I look at my stats, the vast majority of the traffic is categorised as US Commercial (over 70%), with only 4% being UK Traffic. But, does the same apply as has been discussed? Is some of the traffic actually UK traffic but because their IP addresses are resident outside of the UK, they will not show up as UK Traffic?
Posted 07 March 2004 - 05:13 AM
Is some of the traffic actually UK traffic but because their IP addresses are resident outside of the UK, they will not show up as UK Traffic?
Correct! For example, all AOL users in the UK will show up as US visitors. I show up as a visitor from Germany - even though I use BTInternet.
These visitor figures based on IP are (for people in Europe) pretty much worthless!
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