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[chrishirst]

I'd suggest you read http://www.highranki...showtopic=17365 and the [url=http://www.highrankings.com/forum/index.php/topic/833-tips-for-new-seos/]Tips for Newbies[/url]

[full house]

if you want to get PR, you need to work hard for it!And you can't have it for 1 month cause the PR update always happen after 3 months or so. . .

[Randy]

And you can't have it for 1 month cause the PR update always happen after 3 months or so. . .

Not true with Real PR.

That's only the Toolbar PR, which means basically nothing. Real PR is updated constantly.

[interval]

If PR is not important, what criteria uses Goggle and other SEs to put a site on top or on bottom. How Goggle know that a site is an authority site to place it, say, on third place?

[chrishirst]

If PR is not important, what criteria uses Goggle and other SEs to put a site on top or on bottom.

PR exists for Google ONLY

REAL PR is useful

TOOLBAR PR which is the one that is seen, is NOT useful in any way shape or form.

[Orpheus Descending]

Why doesn't Google just remove the damn thing off of its tool bar so this inaccuracy will go away!!! It's so frustrating trying to prove to clients that it's a glamour shot and has no basis in reality. It's frustrating and feeds the murkiness of this business. Every time I hear this, I want to scream, "But why would Google put it there, if it wasn't important?" I think it's for entertainment - the kind that makes googlers laugh while they drink their chai,- but I have a twisted sense of humour.

[torka]

I always tell people it's their version of a "shiny thing" to distract unwary webmasters.

Google puts out lots of unimportant "information" for that very same distraction purpose. The fact that they publish it is actually proof of how unimportant it really is. If it were seriously important, they'd be guarding it like the gold in Fort Knox (the way they guard the "real" PR they actually use in their ranking algorithm).

--Torka

[Orpheus Descending]

Hey Torka, THANKS! I don't know why I've never thought to say that. Duh!! Sometimes the obvious eludes me. (I was very confused when I saw 'Who Framed Roger Rabbit' because I didn't understand why Jessica didn't look like a rabbit. It took me 6 months to realize 'Rabbit' was her last name not her species. And yes, it bugged me for 6 months. I'm that kind of obsessive and just as silly.)

[tomsk]

All the above is correct, the PR bar and must effectively be forgotten about. It is a lesson that took me a number of months to get used to, that said I always have it in my toolbar when I visit a site (why who knows!)

But as a layman I can confirm that I have sites ranking well for the terms that I optimized for, all with little PR value.

As Jill - Randy - OWG and many others banged into me years ago, forget it and concentrate on other things on your site.

[omahonydonnelly]

The one thing that toolbar PR, and getting a higher PR, is useful for is if you are trying to get reciprical links and the other parties are saying "We won't exchange a link with you if the links page has less than PR3" (or whatever).

One of the sites that I manage has member pages, where a member gets to login and update his own page with a CMS. There are directory pages that link to each of these pages in the relative category. One of the members emailed me and, as his brand new page was a PR0, asked me to urgently change the text before the link to "details:" "and the PR will increase immediately". Where did he read that? Have any of you read anything like that? We all know that link text is important (he didn't) and perhaps the text near a link may benefit if you are using keyphrases, but "details:"?! ( A little bit of knowledge is a dangerous thing!)

[Jill]

Since PageRank is about links and only links, there's nothing to what the person said.