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[Reflections]

There are some techniques like Link Building, Article Submission, Blog posting are quite helpful for improving PR. But all the above techniques are time consuming. Can any one tell me some new techniques for improving my PR within one month?

[Randy]

You're kidding right?

There is no replacement for hard work, which usually equates to taking time. There are no shortcuts if you want to do it right.

The sooner you grasp this simple concept the faster you can get on with building a successful business.

[nethy]

You're kidding right?

There is no replacement for hard work, which usually equates to taking time. There are no shortcuts if you want to do it right.

The sooner you grasp this simple concept the faster you can get on with building a successful business.

What I find interesting is that the one who was looking so hard for a quick & easy solution was the one with the secret to immortality and (presumably) had all the time in the world. But they framed him, ###!! Planted a crack pipe he'd never seen before in his glove box and a little text box on his home page, they did.

[Jill]

Improving PR is not a worthy goal.

If you do what you're supposed to be doing for your Website, its PR will increase regardless of you trying.

[Reflections]

Yes, you are right Jill. But PR is the recommendation given by Google. Higher the PR, better is the site.
But our main aim is to improve our business by improving traffic.
But when a visitor comes to our site the first impression he gets about our site form its Page rank of the home page. 
For this reason improving PR of a site is very essential.

[Randy]

Yes, you are right Jill. But PR is the recommendation given by Google. Higher the PR, better is the site.

I believe you're confused Reflections.

When Google personnel refer to PageRank they're talking about the Real PageRank, the one only they can see and the one their algorithm uses internally as one of the factors for ranking. This Real PageRank has little, if any, resemblance to the Google Toolbar PageRank to which we mere mortals have access. As has been well documented many, many times.

But when a visitor comes to our site the first impression he gets about our site form its Page
rank of the home page.

Wrong again, except for in the rare case that your site is targeting the SEO market.

The average user out there has never heard of either the Google Toolbar or PageRank. So to the average user it's a non-issue.

You should treat Toolbar PageRank exactly the same.

[torka]

As Randy says, visitors to your site likely don't know anything about your PR, nor do they care.

Sure, getting more traffic will potentially help your business some. But improving the quality of your traffic -- and improving how well you convert the traffic you do get to sales -- will do a lot more toward helping your business.

AFAIK, Google has never said that PR means the site is "better." PR is nothing more than a way of measuring the cumulative strength of the links pointing to your page. Period. It says nothing about whether the content on that page is actually useful, or whether that page has been optimized to attract interested ready-to-buy people, or whether the site navigation and page layout are doing all they can to "funnel" visitors toward a purchase. It doesn't measure bounce rates or clickthroughs or conversions.

Toolbar PR actually has almost nothing to do with the quality of the site. All it measures is how good the site owner is at enticing other people to link in, less any penalties Google decides to impose. As it happens, there are plenty of low toolbar PR pages that outrank pages with higher toolbar PR, so increasing your toolbar PR won't even necessarily get you any higher rankings or more traffic.

That's why, IMO, focusing on improving PR to "improve your business" is focusing on the wrong thing.

Instead, focus on improving your site to make it more credible and link-worthy. "Beef up" your copy. Optimize for better conversions. (Resources like GrokDotCom.com, Psychotactics.com and MarketingExperiments.com can help with this.) Promote your site in places that are visited by real humans who are interested in what you have to offer. Higher toolbar PR may follow -- but even if the little green bar on the toolbar doesn't budge, you'll be too busy filling and shipping orders to care.

My

--Torka

[Jill]

What Randy and Torka said!

[shaki]

Yes, Randy and Torka said it right. Before I was trying hard (and paying $) to gain higher PR...what a mistake, I did not know any better.

I can confirm that PR has nothing with ranking, as one of my websites lost on PR but ranking is still there and for some phrases ranking has even improved. Although, I am of opinion that in order to rank high for very competitive phrases, your website needs to be an authority website. Once you have authority website you will have a high PR (+5)...does it make sense?

[Randy]

It makes sense shaki. The only flaw in your logic as you laid it out being that you're relying in any way on the Toolbar PR number to determine Authority.

Authority -> Yes.
Real PR -> Probably a factor in becoming an Authority, maybe even an important factor.
Toolbar PR -> Not worth even looking at 99 times out of 100, let alone worrying about.

[Apis]

To instantly increase your PageRank, here's what you do:

1. Create a 100 foot long banner with your web address on it.
2. Hang it from the Empire State Building.
3. Alert the media.

In all seriousness, Google's PageRank, as we all know, is tied to inbound links and traffic, among other things. Working the public relations angle and generating self-propelled (or 'viral') buzz is about your only shot at a significant bump in less than a month. If you can do something that is viewed as newsworthy (or crazy, or stupid, or life-threatening, or Earth-changing), the links and traffic supplied by the media will set you up nicely.

Good luck.

[Reflections]

Yes, inbound links or back links can improve page rank of a site. Not the numbers but the quality backlinks are working very well.

Recently the PR of my site has improved 3 to 4. After that I found my backlinks also improved 8 to 14. 
Can any one explain me the possible causes behind this?

[chrishirst]

Can any one explain me the possible causes behind this?

Yep,

Google updated the toolbar.

[Reflections]

Yep,

Google updated the toolbar.

Thank you Chrishirst.
Can you explain me more about the timing of update of Google i.e. the interval of update?

[chrishirst]

i.e. the interval of update?

Randomly.