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[Deverill]

This makes no sense to me, cbp. They say
Multiple submissions of the same or related sites may result in the exclusion and/or deletion of those and all affiliated sites.

So since all SEO sites are related they are subject to erasure?
What about the local Pepsi bottling center and the local Pizza Hut - they are the same company, would they get nuked?
If so, who needs DMOZ and why aren't they better enforcing their policies?

I understand if they are talking about gaming the directory with mirror pages or similar pages for the same thing, but 5 totally different products that just happen to be owned by the same company is foolish to eliminate.

[cbp]

I understand if they are talking about gaming the directory with mirror pages or similar pages for the same thing, but 5 totally different products that just happen to be owned by the same company is foolish to eliminate.

The policy is to list the "corporate" site that usually has links to the 5 product sites. Your guess is as good as mine as to why they are not enforcing it more strictly ....my guess is that the 5 product sites were not easily detected as belonging to the same company.

It is an editors discretion if additional listing actually adds value to the category, so yes some companies can and do get multiple listings.

[Akuta]

One quality link from a site in your niche is worth 5x as much as any Dmoz link and is exponentially easier to acquire. If folks put half the effort into building relationships with other site owners in their niche, and creating quality content, as they do spending time trying to get into stupid directories and find SEO "tricks", they'd be rolling in the pageviews by now.

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You may have more than 1 site in DMOZ index.

We had 3 sites before some moron editor remove one for no other reason but for being moron and now we have 2 sites with the same domain for the same service we are providing but one of them is listed in regional category and that is permissible by DMOZ guidelines.

The reason they removed your links might be as simple as directory crash they had sometimes ago and bad restoration from corrupted backup. Go to DMOZ forum and ask volunteers-slaves editors to give you some idea why you're out.


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[cbp]

We had 3 sites before some moron editor remove one for no other reason but for being moron

Sites are only removed for not meeting the listing guidelines. Why don't you post the 3 sites and the categories they are/were in and tell us which one was removed. Then we will look at the reason, then we can see who the moron is.

Can I also ask why you resort to name calling? What is the point in doing that?

BTW - one of the sites in your signature is not remotly close to being eligible for a listing.

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Sites are only removed for not meeting the listing guidelines. Why don't you post the 3 sites and the categories they are/were in and tell us which one was removed. Then we will look at the reason, then we can see who the moron is.

Take a look what it says in my signature and take a wild guess and then search DMOZ for “amray”

Can I also ask why you resort to name calling? What is the point in doing that?

Because no one accept DMOZ editors think that they are NOT self indulged by powers given to them and that they are providing worthily service to Internet community where as in reality they are morons who think that perfect description for web site would be something like “band site” or “company information” and thousands alike

BTW - one of the sites in your signature is not remotly close to being eligible for a listing.

Let me guess. AMRAY Web Directory? Am I correct?
If yes, please nudge your head twice and then if you don’t mind tell me why not?

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[cbp]

Let me guess. AMRAY Web Directory? Am I correct?
If yes, please nudge your head twice and then if you don’t mind tell me why not?

Thats easy. Of what use is your directory to the www user? Why would DMOZ want to list your directory and send visitors to it?

[Randy]

Continue resorting to name calling and bad mouthing and you'll simply be muzzled fastreples. It's your choice.

Or did you not read our [url=http://www.highrankings.com/forum/index.php?act=boardrules]Forum Rules[/url]?

There's your fair warning. Don't expect another.

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Randy,
I didn't realized that name calling applies to the Public at large.

cbp,
First of all, DMOZ never sent any visitors to our web hosting site according to AwStats since I start working for AMRAY Network.

Second, can you be more specific and tell me what exactly do you mean by "what use is your directory to the www user"?
As you know today is Saturday and my brains on Saturdays are working in half capacity mod.
Besides, I am sure others would love to hear your explanation too.

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[cbp]

I randomly clicked on one category from your home page:
www.amray.com/cgi/amray/dirs2.cgi?cid=963

Look at the sites there. You are missing all the key authoriative alternative medicine sites - that makes the category pretty much useless to anyone browsing for more information on alternative medicine. There are 7 pages of links to a range of sites -- there is no categorisation of the different areas of alternative medicine - that makes the category pretty much useless to anyone browsing for more information on alternative medicine.

The same could be said of every category in your directory.

It appears the purpose of the site is to provide backlinks to sites that are submitted and not provide categories of useful resources for the web surfer.

DMOZ wants to add links to sites that are useful to the web surfer. Your site is not useful to the web surfer.

[Jill]

It appears the purpose of the site is to provide backlinks to sites that are submitted and not provide categories of useful resources for the web surfer.

A long forgotten reason for submitting to DMOZ (or any directory), unfortunately.

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I randomly clicked on one category from your home page:
www.amray.com/cgi/amray/dirs2.cgi?cid=963

Look at the sites there. You are missing all the key authoriative alternative medicine sites - that makes the category pretty much useless to anyone browsing for more information on alternative medicine. There are 7 pages of links to a range of sites -- there is no categorisation of the different areas of alternative medicine - that makes the category pretty much useless to anyone browsing for more information on alternative medicine.

The same could be said of every category in your directory.

It appears the purpose of the site is to provide backlinks to sites that are submitted and not provide categories of useful resources for the web surfer.

DMOZ wants to add links to sites that are useful to the web surfer. Your site is not useful to the web surfer.

Oh, I see. So you are saying that to have 200,000 useless categories as DMOZ does with 5 links or less in each category is better than to have one category with 100 links specific to that category. Very interesting concept, hmmm…

I never thought that spamatorized with thousands categories Directories where visitors must click jump endless categories links hoops to the next page is better than directory where they are only 2 clicks away from the index page to their desired topic.

Oh well, if this is their (DMOZ) reason and not just your personal opinion, then I should point out that their Directories Category should have only one directory listed in it, their own.

As to links in that category, they are based on submitted links and if none of them belong to authoritative sites it doesn't make them less valuable. Now, because whatever you just expressed can be applied to every single directory listed in DMOZ, I thing your argument [removed personal attack] is totally lacking any substance in it

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(I wonder if I missed "You're fired" smiley)

[cbp]

Now, because whatever you just expressed can be applied to every single directory listed in DMOZ,

DMOZ wants to list unique content that is useful to the web surfer. Your site does not have that - its that simple!. Its NOT just my opinion. ....its what the DMOZ guidelines say!

I thing your argument [removed personal attack] is totally lacking any substance in it

You just don't get it do you? Its exactly what the DMOZ guidelines say.

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There is nothing unique about directories DMOZ is listed now with exceptions to niche directories and I challenge you to point me to any directory in DMOZ that have unique content in it that more worthily than ours.

As to why DMOZ removed us, it has nothing to do with our directory quality in spite of how many times you will try to proof otherwise. All you did so far is made a lot of sounds about subject you apparently have no idea and continue attacking directory because you have no guts to go after me personally


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[cbp]

continue attacking directory because you have no guts to go after me personally

Unlike you I stay away from personal attacks .... I do not stoop to such low levels which you have clearly shown above that you do .... I guess that just sums up the calibre of person you are.

I have told you exactly why your directory is not listed in DMOZ ... you choose not to listen. Of course there are sites listed in DMOZ that would not meet the current guidelines (they may have in the past when they were listed). They will be removed one day when they get re-evaluated.

As to why DMOZ removed us, it has nothing to do with our directory quality in spite of how many times you will try to proof otherwise

It has everything to do with the quality and usefulness of your directory. Any editor can go and check the editing notes and see the reason to confirm it! You choose not to believe it ... thats your choice.