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[Nueromancer]

how important is DMOZ.

I've never been able to get a site listed in DMOZ, I've never used DMOZ nor would I , infact i'd never even heard of DMOZ until i started learning about SEO.

So should anyone really worry about DMOZ these days?

well I got 2-3 in over the last few years - i still keep trying in the vain hope of geting another site in.

[cbp]

cbp, then why was it ok for 7 years? Did the rules recently change? Either it's ok or it's not. That's why DMOZ pretty much sucks. It's completely inconsistent.

Its always been that way - it may just have not been noticed by an editor until now that it was one comapny. Generally its one company = one listing (there are some exceptions, at editors discretion). It not of concern to DMOZ the company chooses to spread itself over a whole lot of websites. It was really to stop business who do that deliberatly just to scam extra DMOZ listings (I could never understand why they did that???)

Others have explained this better than I can -- if you go to Resource Zone and type in 'one company multiple sites' in the search box, you get 3 pages of threads - many of which discuss this very issue.

[SEO-Slave]

cbp, then why was it ok for 7 years? Did the rules recently change? Either it's ok or it's not. That's why DMOZ pretty much sucks. It's completely inconsistent.

Thanx Jill, my point exactly.

[cbp]

Thanx Jill, my point exactly.

What is inconsistent about it? It always been that way. You have just been able to stay under the radar scope until now when an editor realised that they were one company spread across a number of sites.

[JeffLin]

hi jill,
I'm also have a question, we have some sites, one homepage PR is 4, ank the rank near 20000, and we add our url at dmoz several month (over half a year), but the Dmoz still not list our site.

we have aother site, which PR=3, rank 130000, we submit it three month ago, now the Dmoz record it.

I just want to know why we submit the two site with the same way, but the better one wasn't listed, the other one was recorded?

Thanks for help?

[-=seth=-]

all depends on the editor and its completely down to how he feels or interprets the rules, or even if he can be bothered to edit the category he controls

i actually used to be an editor until one day i went to log in and found i had been locked out, i think it was because i hadnt logged in for awhile, but no explanation was given, i've heard that if you get sacked from mi5 they use a similar method, you turn up to work and your pass to get in the building doesnt work. not sure why DMOZ is modeling itself on the British secret service

its a funny organisation, very badly run, little more than a link farm, owned by MSN, so its no longer independent and really undeserving of the respect its given by Google etc

[Randy]

owned by MSN

Hunh? You sure about that?

I don't keep up on these kinds of things, but last I knew DMOZ was a Netscape project and owned by them, which is supported by their WhoIs information on the domain.

Netscape in turn was purchased by AOL, which became a Time Warner company in the AOL/Time Warner merger. I believe that Google had a small (~5%) stake on AOL so could technically be a part owner and they do use the ODP/DMOZ RDF dumps. However I don't recall there every being any mention of MSN having an ownership position in any of the above. Or any connection to DMOZ whatsoever for that matter.

[cbp]

Of course MSN don't own it.

[-=seth=-]

that was it, it was AOL not MSN, writing too fast without thinking

[LisaWeb]

cbp, then why was it ok for 7 years? Did the rules recently change? Either it's ok or it's not. That's why DMOZ pretty much sucks. It's completely inconsistent.

Thumbs up to that! I am soooo sick of their elitist attitude and hypocritical stance. It's gotten to the point where I've finally decided to boycott them entirely. Not that little o' me would have any affect on them. But I've had enough. And as an added benefit, I sleep much better now.

[wurzel]

Nope. Its is a problem - its against the guidelines.

I am a DMOZ editor and my understanding is that this is not against the rules, in fact I have two websites of my own listed in different categories as they relate to two different products.

[cbp]

I am a DMOZ editor and my understanding is that this is not against the rules, in fact I have two websites of my own listed in different categories as they relate to two different products.

You need to go an re-read the guidelines and/or ask for clarification in the internal forums about what is meant by 'related sites'. Alternativly do a search at Resource Zone, where many senior editors have explained this many times.

[Jasmine250]

Has it affected your hits being removed from Dmoz? We're still waiting to be accepted and I still haven't worked out if you can bribe Dmoz to get listed - but as the previous reply indicated, maybe it isnt worth the wait...

[Randy]

With several dozen sites and over several years I have never seen a single hit from directly from a DMOZ listing. NOt that I look for single hits mind you. I can categorically state I have never had a single conversion over the years that came from a DMOZ clickthru. I do track those closely, and would have noticed because it would have been so far outside the norm.

[cbp]

I still haven't worked out if you can bribe Dmoz to get listed

Maybe you should take some advice from all those others who have tried and are now permanently banned.

I can never understand why so many are so desperate for a listing .... don't figure.