16 replies to this topic

[tenzin]

i found a free link exchange mgmt software. the link to it is < live link to link farm scheme removed > . it lets u download link exchange mgmt software, free. it asks us to either install automatically or manually. when we choose automatically, it asks for ftp address, username and p/w. so, since it is not safe, i am thinking about doing it manually, ie first downloading the s/w and installing. but considering the providing of s/w free and asking for such sensitive data, i am really in dilemma, whether or not to opt for it....so, pls advise..thanks

Edited by chrishirst, 14 August 2007 - 03:11 AM.

[chrishirst]

it's a LINK FARM !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[tenzin]

it's a LINK FARM !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

how can u be so sure? and yeah, the site may be link farming site. but what i was asking is the free software for download they are providing. and it isnt for link building but for managing the link exchange program, so in a way it helps me in building links manually. i might be wrong here. so, pls check the site < removed > (so that u wont have trouble going to the link, since u've deleted the previous one) again especially, the free download one, < removed > and advise me. thank you chrishirst

[tenzin]

actually i dont really find the need to. but my client insists. may be i am unable to convince. so, we are trying to find a software which checks the link request to our site and let us approve and when the other site has deleted our link, the s/w should inform us. so, except for approving( which is done by us), everything is done by the s/w

[chrishirst]

it is an automated system for any tom dick or harry to shove their crappy links onto your site and any other site that uses the same crap system

NOW if you want to run the risk of having your clients penalised that is up to you!!! Just do not expect us to help you in that endeavour

How can I be sure?
Well for one, I have been working around SEs and websites for a few years now and seen just about everything come and go several times.
also:

Because < removed > is a PHP application that runs from your web site, it can update your link pages the moment you make a change, or the moment another site's webmaster chooses to exchange links with you. This means no need to upload new versions of your link pages. It also means immediate feedback for webmasters making link exchanges with you.

Now if from the above quote you do NOT understand that this is an automated system than will very likely put you and your clients sites in deep you either need to read the [url=http://www.highrankings.com/forum/index.php/topic/833-tips-for-new-seos/]Tips for Newbies[/url] over and over again, find new clients or find a new profession to be in.

And NO this is not being harsh this is being honest

there is no such thing as a GOOD automated link exchange

[tenzin]

thanks christhirst!!!
but the client insists for software as i mentioned. so, is there such software which is honest and doesnot do the things u told would do?? and do u know of any such software?? paid or free....thanks once again.......or is it that searching for such s/w itself means searching for link farm sites, since they are automatic??? so, should i stick hard to doing everything myself??? manually??? pls advise

[chrishirst]

who is in charge of the SEO you or the client??

I got rid of all my clients who were trying to make the tail wag the dog. Your job for the main part is to educate them as well. If they get it, it will make your job easier, if they don't they will just make it harder and those ones will never be happy. Anything that goes wrong will be your fault, even when they forced a course of action and your reputation will be shot before you start.

Only the complainers will tell everybody how crap you are.

[tenzin]

how can there be spam links in our sites, when afterall, the APPROVAL IS OURS. the s/w will ask for our approval. so.....is there such software which is honest and doesnot do the things u told would do?? and do u know of any such software?? paid or free....thanks once again.......or is it that searching for such s/w itself means searching for link farm sites, since they are automatic??? so, should i stick hard to doing everything myself??? manually??? pls advise....and pls..and pls dont get irritated..thanks

Edited by tenzin, 14 August 2007 - 05:33 AM.

[tenzin]

are all sites claiming to help in building and managing links or even helping in link building like i said, with or without charges spams? will anyone pls clear me out properly, fully???

[daniel]

They won't do any good, and could do damage to your site.

[tenzin]

thanks daniel for ur reply

[perkle]

it's a LINK FARM !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Chris can you tell me how to spot these software mgmt. programs or link farms to avoid them when answering a reciprocal link exchange request to my site.

Perkle

[chrishirst]

link farms are simple, it's where every site in the scheme links to every other site via a script or ftp uploaded pages.


Any scheme that inserts pages in to your site via a script or FTP has the potential to be a link farm (if not already) as you have no (or limited) control over when or how these pages are updated.

anything that requires you to host a script or a page should be inspected very very closely and treated with extreme suspicion, it's all too easy to fire out hidden links or punctation links to these kind of pages and the site owner would never know.

when answering a reciprocal link exchange

You answer link exchange requests??????

[perkle]

Thanks Chris
So these link farm sites don't just ask for a normal reciprocal link then you think.

The reason I ask and am quite confused on this linking work is that I have a lot of people in a given industry as for reciprocal links and they use one or two or even both link software management systems and the pages are not indexed in google.

I check this by copying their page address into google's search and they are 99% of the time not indexed.

As I understand it such a non indexed page link is of no value to me. Am I correct in this.

[Jill]

The keyword there, Perkle, is "link management system." That generally is synonymous with "Link Farm."