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Why Technically Are Wikipedia Pages In Top Positions ?
Posted 01 July 2007 - 12:36 PM
- the Wikipedia domain is very popular, it is therfore normal its' pages get good positions;
- the pages are full-text : they are easier to read for a search engine;
- the contents of each page are specific : on one single page you will not find different subjects;
- a lot of internal links on meaningful keywords exist that help increase a page's popularity;
- a lot of external links exist to specific pages;
Are my reasons right ? would you know of any other possible reason ?
SE filters ?
thanks for thinking out loud with me. Caroline
Posted 01 July 2007 - 04:07 PM
Posted 01 July 2007 - 04:29 PM
Posted 02 July 2007 - 10:39 AM
So I imagine Wikipedia's link popularity is immense. I know I am typical among my peer group-- I picked up the Wikipedia-linking habit from my friends.
Link pop on top of the issues outlined above should be enough to make the site in general rank pretty well, and many of its individual pages must rank very well.
Posted 02 July 2007 - 10:42 AM
just wondered how do the large business directories fit into this category - does G see these as selling advertising? Technically are they serving information or advertising?
Posted 02 July 2007 - 11:53 AM
Ok but there must be key words and expressions that make sense for both what you call ordinary web users and SEOs...
Posted 02 July 2007 - 01:16 PM
Posted 02 July 2007 - 01:36 PM
Other people, hearing his same comment, may not have come away with that impression.
Of course, many SEOs have been saying for about a year that Google is giving Wikipedia favorable weighting (in addition to its high number of inbound links, natural on-page keyword focus, internal linkage, etc.). In recent weeks, I have noticed a surge of Wikipedia articles moving in to the top 5 positions for many keywords where those article were not previously in the top ten results (but the articles did exist). Someone recently published a pretty good informal study (with a couple of minor flaws) that indicates a seriously favorable weighting for Wikipedia articles in Google's search results.
You can outrank Wiki articles but you have to really nail it for relevance to do so.
Posted 02 July 2007 - 02:31 PM
But it seems to me that if you're informative enough to get more link pop and thus outrank a wikipedia article, you'd be the best source of knowledge for that article and they'd be stupid not to link for you. But if you already outrank them, you don't need them to link to you!
I'm getting dizzy.
Posted 02 July 2007 - 05:27 PM
It is my personal view that Wikipedia got where it is today purely on merit and their pages rank well for a broad range of search terms simply because it is a very popular site that contains good and detailed information.
I don't see any clever SEO going on with Wikipedia and I don't think Google has to favour it as it already pushes all the right ranking buttons and Google will therefore automatically favoured the Wikipedia information based on the number of quality links and content.
There is no mystery, Wikipedia ranks well because it should rank well, it would be odd if it didn't.
Posted 02 July 2007 - 07:53 PM
Posted 03 July 2007 - 03:30 PM
I have to disagree. I think google favors one domain over all.
Posted 03 July 2007 - 03:52 PM
Google: "search engine"
Google isn't ranked first for "search engine". Heck, they're not even in the top 10. Of course, they've done a terrible job of optimizing Google.com for the phrase "search engine," so I guess that's only to be expected...
They are #1 for Google (they had better be...) but they don't even give themselves SiteLinks.
Doesn't look like they're cutting themselves much slack, really.
Posted 03 July 2007 - 08:15 PM
Then you would be wrong.
Posted 03 July 2007 - 08:44 PM
Remeber the algorithim was meant toreflect academia. A source that is often referenced is often thought about and also talked about. Wikipedia is a major source of knowledge these days. It is actually an example of the algorithim working. People are more likely to reference info then anything else that's why it has all the links.
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