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[torka]

My favorite is the well-known theory that ice cream causes drowning.

More people drown in warm weather. As the weather gets warmer, ice cream consumption rises. Therefore, ice cream causes drowning!

Right?



--Torka

[Randy]

Hey, it's no more wacky than some (most?) of the SEO stuff we all see floating around out there stated as Fact.

[1dmf]

It's official, keyword in domain name does not work - Period!!!!!

I have tested this with no other SEO , I put exact match and normal match for the domain name (exluding sub domain WWW & TLD , obviously) and my site DOES NOT SHOW!!!!!

if I qualify this with the TLD (.co.uk) the site shows, (one assumes Googles works out your looking for a domain and so applies differnt search criteria! and so different result)

I should note that the google exact phrase match doesn't work properly or ignores hyphens, so I couldn't 100% be sure on this test, as the domain I used is hyphenated and the exact match brought many results with the phrase I used un-hyphenated.

But maybe that adds weight to the domain name does not count! as exact match with hyphen didn't bring my site up and instead matched the phrase without the hyphen concidering them as more targeted results, or as i said exact match doesn't work.

For me this is conclusive evidence that buying a domain purely based on a keyword is a fruitless task and you'd be better of thinking of something catchy or rememberable than worrying about keywords, if your domain name happens to contain your keyword, then it won't hurt and may give a miniscule boost, if other SEO practices have been applied to the page for the same keyword.

You may just find all it does is 'highlight' the keyword in the domain when displaying result, but doesn't use it when running the search/index algo, so it's purely a visual thing when displaying results.

So there you have it, conclusive proof via scientific testing, keyword in domain means nothing , it's the other SEO that counts!!!!!


P.S.
Avoid Ice Cream

Edited by 1dmf, 09 July 2007 - 08:33 AM.

[michael_ter]

ok,
So i decided to change my SEO research from Pharma to Mortgage.

Hey! Now I know who bombs my e-mail boxes with these offers! Each year I have to change my working e-mail addresses. Never, never I will use your offer, you have to know it. Sorry for the off-topic but this is the real problem with spam with such poor imagination

[1dmf]

Yeah tell me about it, it's damn annoying to us who work in the industry trying to run legitimate businesses/websites and these scum spammers continually send out crap to everyone giving us a bad name!

Let me assure you , we do not send out spam and in the UK this falls under the regulation of 'Cold Calling' which is an illegal practice, if only other countries had strict laws stopping this kind of practice.

If you ever receive these kind of emails from a UK company report them to the FSA (Financial Services Authority)

[End2ENd]

Hey! Now I know who bombs my e-mail boxes with these offers! Each year I have to change my working e-mail addresses. Never, never I will use your offer, you have to know it. Sorry for the off-topic but this is the real problem with spam with such poor imagination

Hi Michael,

I hope you understand the difference between SEO and Spamming.
What we are discussing is SEO, not spamming.
And I do agree with you, it is really annoying.
And I assure you, we do not SPAM.
Even I have to change my email address every now and then.
And as 1dmf suggested, please take a step to report it to the correct authorities. There are many sources to find out the correct authorities in your nation.

Each and every SPAM that i get, i go to the website, check which affiliate program they are working for, track their affiliate ID and I report it to that affiliate company.
Every affiliate company has strict rules against Spamming.

I know it takes time, but if all of us start doing things like these, this would help us in the long run.

P.S. This is what i try, I do not suggest anyone to try anything as per my recommendations. Please try what suits you the best.

[End2ENd]

Michael,

I am no expert but i do know a thing or two.

Just wanted to share it with you.

1. Never leave your email address on any forum thread or visible page of a website.
Even if you have to, leave it smartly like: name at domain . com
The bots/spiders cannot read it then.

2. Do not sign up to any newsletter till the time you trust the website.

3. Make sure your computer is trojan/spyware free.

This should help.

Just suggestions, no official statement.

[michael_ter]

Hi Michael,

I hope you understand the difference between SEO and Spamming.
What we are discussing is SEO, not spamming.

I have to ask your pardon for my emotionally motivated post - I should not compare your work and those who spam our e-mail boxes. Thank you for being patient to explaine me the difference. And thanks for advices. You know that there are e-mail scanners, they just scan web pages and are looking for e-mail strings. Usually we place our e-mail addresses in "Contact" pages, we should do it. So sooner or later e-mail box is overloaded by spam

[1dmf]

This is where I love having my site working on AJAX, none of the contact us, and other email/address sensetive details are visible unless you click the link, and then it's a JS DOM update , so the source code of the website never reveals it!

only thing is it screws you when you want stuff indexed, oh well can't win either way - lol

[End2ENd]

I have to ask your pardon for my emotionally motivated post - I should not compare your work and those who spam our e-mail boxes. Thank you for being patient to explaine me the difference. And thanks for advices. You know that there are e-mail scanners, they just scan web pages and are looking for e-mail strings. Usually we place our e-mail addresses in "Contact" pages, we should do it. So sooner or later e-mail box is overloaded by spam

It is perfectly fine Michael.
Thanks for understanding what we really do here.

Another suggestion for you.
Either you can use AJAX, as 1dmf has explained in detail.
Or

You can use a contact us form, which is routed to your email.

Or else

You can have a click here to contact us in flash or anything similar.
You can have a picture of your email address, anything like this.

Coz Bots cannot read these.

This would cut down on Spam dramatically.