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#1 Lil Bugger

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Posted 27 June 2007 - 10:46 AM

Using Britney Spears as an example, if I had a sites setup using subdomain format, would britney-spears.domain.com or britney.spears.domain.com be higher ranked than britneyspears.domain.com ?

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Posted 27 June 2007 - 11:01 AM

No, No and No

#3 Lil Bugger

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Posted 27 June 2007 - 11:55 AM

QUOTE(chrishirst @ Jun 27 2007, 12:01 PM) View Post
No, No and No


Just the answer I was hoping for!

Thank you Chris.

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Posted 28 June 2007 - 05:38 AM

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QUOTE(chrishirst @ Jun 27 2007, 11:01 AM) View Post
No, No and No

The best answer you could give, Chris smile.gif

#5 Marcel

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Posted 29 June 2007 - 05:36 AM

QUOTE(Lil Bugger @ Jun 27 2007, 05:46 PM) View Post
would britney-spears.domain.com or britney.spears.domain.com be higher ranked than britneyspears.domain.com ?



Hm, if this is an example, never mind. But if you're really going to use "Britney Spears" in your domain name you can get sued for it in several countries (including some in EU for example). Be careful using names of famous persons or companies in domain names...!

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Posted 29 June 2007 - 07:12 AM

hmmm, on another thread it was basically concluded that having the domain name of your company name DOES give you SERPs , and therefor having the company name in the title tag is not nessesary.

now, do sub domains carry as much weight, that's the question, at the end of the day all WWW is , is a sub domain , does that carry weight anywhere in searches?


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Posted 29 June 2007 - 08:06 AM

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hmmm, on another thread it was basically concluded that having the domain name of your company name DOES give you SERPs , and therefor having the company name in the title tag is not nessesary.


I think you're reading something wrong if you thought that was a conclusion that has ever been reached on HRF 1dmf.

The one and only time that a keyworded domain name counts for anything with regard to SEO is if people link to pages in the site using the keyworded domain name as the anchor text in the link. Read that several times, let it sink in and you'll have a full grasp on the lone circumstance when keywords in the URL can help.

It's a very, very limited and narrow scope. One that can just as easily be accomplished by using sensible anchor text no matter what is in the Domain Name or URL.

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Posted 29 June 2007 - 08:14 AM

QUOTE(Randy @ Jun 29 2007, 03:06 PM) View Post
The one and only time that a keyworded domain name counts for anything with regard to SEO is if people link to pages in the site using the keyworded domain name as the anchor text in the link.


Hi Randy,
it is correct that the text anchor link counts much. A good point. But many experts say the domain name is also counted for search results itself. If you have your keyword in, they say it counts alone for this fact. As Google treats sub-domains as being domains on their own it may make sence registering sub-domains for keyword optimization if you have on-topic pages. So it should be an advantage in comparision to using sub-folders.

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Posted 29 June 2007 - 08:25 AM

Don't believe 99% of what self-proclaimed "experts" say Marcel. Why? because 99.9% of them have never actually tested most of the facts they spout off about themselves and are simply repeating myths that have been propogated by other "experts".

If you want to absolutely know something, Test It. It's not all that hard to do. If you don't feel like testing it yourself, then you should only believe it when you're getting it from someone who has actually tested it.

Several of us have tested this whole keyworded domain/url myth several times. The answer has always been the same. Without the links as described above the keyworded domain or url carries no water.

That said, you're free to believe anything and anybody you choose to. Just don't complain when something you've decided to follow because some expert said it was important turns out to be categorically untrue.

#10 1dmf

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Posted 29 June 2007 - 08:27 AM

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I think you're reading something wrong if you thought that was a conclusion that has ever been reached on HRF 1dmf.
well it wouldn't be the first time now would it wink.gif

i've done a test actually and you are probably right randy, I have a domain name not being used and not linked to , and it isn't in google if I type it in, but the domain itself is a redirect to one of my other sites, so it's not a proper test.

I need to create a page for the domain, that just has some words I can use as keyword testing , once indexed and found by the keywords I'll test again.

then i'll know for sure by testing, being scientific and doing it properly, someone will be pleased smile.gif

#11 Lil Bugger

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Posted 29 June 2007 - 01:46 PM

QUOTE(Marcel @ Jun 29 2007, 06:36 AM) View Post
Hm, if this is an example, never mind. But if you're really going to use "Britney Spears" in your domain name you can get sued for it in several countries (including some in EU for example). Be careful using names of famous persons or companies in domain names...!

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Is there proof for that? I see hundreds of sites using celebrity names in their domains.
Does it make it legal if you have the name outside of the domain?

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Posted 29 June 2007 - 11:38 PM

QUOTE(Marcel @ Jun 29 2007, 05:36 AM) View Post
Hm, if this is an example, never mind. But if you're really going to use "Britney Spears" in your domain name you can get sued for it in several countries (including some in EU for example). Be careful using names of famous persons or companies in domain names...!


You can get by using a person's name. The only time it becomes a problem is if they've trademarked their name and this rarely happens. This is why sites like Britney Spears guide to lasers exists, while a template designer named Dell is being sued by Dell Computers even though they offer different products.

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Posted 30 June 2007 - 12:43 AM

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You can get by using a person's name. The only time it becomes a problem is if they've trademarked their name and this rarely happens.


For those reading here, please don't take any legal advice by the posters here. The above may or may not be correct. You'd want to check with an attorney to know for sure.

#14 Marcel

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Posted 02 July 2007 - 06:11 AM

QUOTE(Jill @ Jun 30 2007, 07:43 AM) View Post
For those reading here, please don't take any legal advice by the posters here. The above may or may not be correct. You'd want to check with an attorney to know for sure.



Hi Jill,
yes, I just wanted to point out that one has to be careful and rather double-check this...!

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Posted 02 July 2007 - 10:34 AM

QUOTE(Jill @ Jun 30 2007, 01:43 AM) View Post
For those reading here, please don't take any legal advice by the posters here. The above may or may not be correct. You'd want to check with an attorney to know for sure.


Jill does this mean my new domain davidandvictoriabeckhamdrinkcoke.com is in trouble... sarcastic_blum.gif

btw on a more serious note-
Wayne Rooney Domains: www.lawdit.co.uk/reading_room/room/view_article.asp?name=../articles/Wayne%20Rooney%20Domains%20v1.htm




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